"First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set."Thx for the help, nvidia display still gives ranging % numbers tho my issue was about if there could be an avrg.
I found an XFX RX 7800 XT [Speedster MERC319 16 Go GDDR6 HDMI 3xDP, AMD RDNA™ 3 (RX-78TMERCB9)] at 559€
and an MSI RTX 4070 Super [12G Ventus 3X OC 12 Go GDDR6X, 2520 MHz, PCI Express Gen 4, 192 Bits, 3X DP v 1.4a, HDMI 2.1a (Supports 4K & 8K HDR)] at 719€
I have no idea if combining intel cpu and amd gpu can be a downgrade in game, i guess if you propose it its ok, the question is: is it worth keeping the rtx/nvidia stuff for 160€?
Performance-wise when comparing these two on UserBenchmark the rtx has +13% speed, +21 avrg score and +30% overcloked score, based on that i think so.
Also in the summary describing the two gpu on the amd one it is written:
"First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set."
What is your take on this as i learned its kind of a war of opinions going on between the 2 groups of users. Like maybe it wont be a problem for cs2 but if i want to play some more high demanding games is it going to pose problem?
My guess that came from 'Userbenchmark'.....the most biased website I've ever had the misfortune to come across and read. So every revieweri n the world and all the yt video's showing performance of the gpu/cpu's in question, are all faked and everyone is being paid by AMD, and intel and nvidia are the poor companies being robbed.....or everyone else is showing their findings and the website is talking ***p.
For gpu in gaming, when going down the stack so to speak, features such as raytracing really don't mean much..the hit in fps means you'll prob turn in on, look at it, go that's nice but my frames are ****, and turn it off and go with raster performance. Here amd are giving better price to performance than nvidia. downside is that you miss out on dlss which is better than fsr(amd version), but at 1080p, they're both meant to be pretty rubbish as not a lot to upscale..as you get more and more expensive cards, then i think extra's such as better ray tracing come into play..however, just saw a vid on yt of the 4080super playing alan wake 2 with path tracing turned on(step up from standard ray tracing), and it managed 42fps...so for a £1k card you get 42fps??? as if people are going to play with that....so i think you have to take everything sade by both nvidia and amd with a pinch of salt...
I generally looks at Harware unboxed at gpu and cpu performance...pretty down the line and graphs easy to understand etc..gamernexus, jaz2cents, paul's hardware etc..they're a few of them
cpu wise, intel were far out in front, rested on laurels, amd rediesigned their cpu's from ground up with ryzen and now they're taking mkt share...12th gen had a little fight back where I had it in front of amd, and overall still is excellent for productivity, but AM5 now has longevity, 7800x3d is the fastest gaming cpu you can get, is a lot cheaper than a 14900k and uses far less power...I couldn't recommend intel unless there productivity involed and then it's video etc, where codec are excellent in intel cpu's...but I'd look at technotice yt for guidamnce there(he does no gaming on his channel)
For transparency, I have 2 pc's running as work abroad so live away from home....B550 e-e gaming,with AMD 5800x cpu, 32gb 3600c18 ddr4 and rtx 3080, and B650e-e strix, 7800X3d, 32gb 6000c30 and 3070ti...even with 3080, i think iturned raytracing on when playing control, then turned it back off when my fps dropped by 50 odd fps
Don't play CS2 so can't really help with setting etc..but looked up the 10400f and that can go up to 100degrees before thermal throttling happens, so 75 degrees isn't anything to worry about. as neither your gpu or cpu are maxed out, I'd start playing around with settings before you drop money on upgrades