PC Won't Start Up

Mcnumpty2323 · 24 May 2020 at 00:28

Anderswelt said:
I have the Wraith Spire cooler that comes stock with the Ryzen 5 2600. It doesn't have a foil on the bottom, but a thin layer of thermal paste. I wiped off the past on the CPU and put some thermal paste from Halnziye (thermal resistance of 255 centigrade). I've replaced cpus several times in the past, but never dealt with this, and never had a cooler before. Anyway, when I went into Win 10, I saw on Speccy that the cpu idles at mostly 80 degrees (I always talk centigrade). At most it went to 85 and occasionally went as low as 78. I was installing drivers etc, not watching videos or playing games. Is that okay?

no its not even close to ok
should idle approx 30--40c depending on ambient temperature
is the spire a push pin cooler?
not used air cooling in years so no idea if amd use push pins or not
ie its got 4 plastic pins you push down then twist
if so they are likely not properly engaged
either you just pushed down without twisting
or 1 or more wasnt properly through the hole when you twisted it

wookiee87 · 24 May 2020 at 09:30

Anderswelt said:
I have the Wraith Spire cooler that comes stock with the Ryzen 5 2600. It doesn't have a foil on the bottom, but a thin layer of thermal paste. I wiped off the past on the CPU and put some thermal paste from Halnziye (thermal resistance of 255 centigrade). I've replaced cpus several times in the past, but never dealt with this, and never had a cooler before. Anyway, when I went into Win 10, I saw on Speccy that the cpu idles at mostly 80 degrees (I always talk centigrade). At most it went to 85 and occasionally went as low as 78. I was installing drivers etc, not watching videos or playing games. Is that okay?

idle temps are still far too high, the temps your seeing at idle should be under full load, what power plan have you got setup in windows?, could be worth a shot and set (amd) balanced or power saver modes and see if the cpu drops its temp.
bring up task manager and under the performance tab look at the cpu usage, normally it should be around 1-18% at idle so the cpu should be cool as its not being used, i suspect something is running in the background that is hammering the cpu at idle. You can click on the process tab, find the cpu column and click it, this will show which processes are using the cpu the most, try ending them and see if the cpu cools off.

did you clean install windows too?

wookiee87 · 24 May 2020 at 09:33

Mcnumpty2323 said:
is the spire a push pin cooler?

the spire cooler use's the amd backplate and screws through the motherboard into the back plate, my nephews 2600 build was the same, the stock cooler was ok but swapped out for a coolermaster 212, as on the stock cooler under load was around 88 degrees

wookiee87 · 24 May 2020 at 09:50

Right found a potential fix, the problem is speccy, it will report wrong temperatures for amd ryzen chips 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen all have the problem and the makers of speccy haven't fixed it (the offset can be as high as +50 degrees).
Can you download a program called core temp, make sure its the latest version and run it, this will give you the true cpu temperature at idle and under load.

Mcnumpty2323 · 24 May 2020 at 15:02

wookiee87 said:
the spire cooler use's the amd backplate and screws through the motherboard into the back plate, my nephews 2600 build was the same, the stock cooler was ok but swapped out for a coolermaster 212, as on the stock cooler under load was around 88 degrees

Thanks
Not used air cooler in very long time so wasn't sure

Mcnumpty2323 · 24 May 2020 at 15:04

wookiee87 said:
Right found a potential fix, the problem is speccy, it will report wrong temperatures for amd ryzen chips 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen all have the problem and the makers of speccy haven't fixed it (the offset can be as high as +50 degrees).
Can you download a program called core temp, make sure its the latest version and run it, this will give you the true cpu temperature at idle and under load.

Believe he checked in the bios when I mentioned it
And was 68c and still rising
That would rule out software inaccuracy
I think as even a poor cooler won't get that hot in bios

Anderswelt · 25 May 2020 at 13:30

I think Speccy was the problem. The temperature on Core Temp idles at around 40, has yet to exceed 55. Thanks to eveyone for all the help, I'm relieved to say the least!