@ liamcrane your right there mate it is a shame, this aside tho I have always stuck with it, sounds mad but you adopt your game to the stupid mistakes of the game, like the players closing down without your permission so when u change to that player thats already started closing down it takes him a while to find pace, and if it is messi or ronaldo your defending against then u dont have a chance. I must admit, I dont think there are many problems with the attacking play as Ive scored some amazingly worked goals, this is why I wont switch to FIFA, its the frigging defending. having been playing online for all these years you do actually see diffrent styles of defending from other online players but it seems like the game is designed around one style of defending, and one style only, which is a shame. Also, And I dont know if its my paranoid head or what, but has anyone else noticed that when playing online with players who have a lower rating than you, it seems to be really biased to them, like they have a handicap or something in game. yes I will definately be getting the demo and checking it out, but i can almost guarantee Ill be PES11 this next year.