Petrol or Diesel?

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I was going to say, it sounds a bit like having a turbo.

I'll stop now as there are a lot of Civic owners on here, and it's not a bad car, just doesn't fit my driving style.
 
Went out today for more test driving.

Sadly the Leon I had booked was sold earlier in the week so i'm going to have to wait to get a go in another one.

Now, the Fabia vRS.

It's er... torquey. Just a smidge. And it goes like absolute stink. The mid-range acceleration is absolutely brutal, like being smacked in the face with a brick.

The total opposite of the Focus for me. The Focus is a far more comfortable car for driving in, but it feels sluggish compared to the vRS. The Fabia is a very raw drive, foot down and off it goes, torque spilling all over the road.

Not sure which I prefer, but the vRS is a brilliant car, oodles of torque, good fuel economy, and the one I drove is fully specced and looks as good as the Focus from the outside.

But the Focus is a much more refined car, more comfortable to drive, but certainly less involving as a result.

Going to be a tough choice, this.

Okay, i'm done, the petrol lovers can begin bashing me now. :p
 
Well lets see, my comparison is.

Fabia 1.9TDI
Golf 1.6
Ibiza 1.4
Focus 1.8

It's purely subjective really. I know it won't match a supercar, hell there are a lot of things that would make the Fabia look ordinary.

But to me, it feels brutal. :)
 
It would have to be the 170 I think, as if I went for a vRS it would be straight in for a remap.

I'm willing to take back the "brutal" statement - that's what it felt like for me, but please remember that my car experience is poor. I've not even had my licence 12 months yet! :p
 
[TW]Fox;14208122 said:
The problem with diesels is the BS and hype surrounding them, which is perfectly illustrated by the discussion we are now having about the Fabia. Objectively, it is a small hatchback powered by a 130bhp 4 cylinder diesel engine.

Agreed.

Yet it's being described as having 'brutal acceleration', it 'goes like absolute stink' and now apparently it is also 'silent'.

All things that I think it has. Yes Fox, it's one of those "opinion" things that you sometimes read about. Everyone has one. :)

The thing is, its none of these things yet its suprising the amount of diesel owners who actually seem to think that these things DO apply to cars like this :confused:

So you actually think it's a poor car? I tried asking you about it on MSN and I got told that you didn't like it because it's a "small hatchback with a rattly diesel engine". That, quite simply, helps nobody.

I'm trying to make an informed decision by going at this with an open mind. I've spent most of my miles in a diesel, yet I learnt in a petrol. So i'm really not biased on this, despite what most of you probably think.

I'm just a novice compared to many of you who have driven lots of different cars. I just want some solid, objective, decent advice with good arguments and reasoning.

Is that too much to ask?

Instead I get this whole "It's noisy" "It's smelly" "It diesel" - how about the fact that I don't give one about those? I've been driving for ten months, at the moment it would be nice to just own something that can take me from A to B. I don't care if it plays a symphony with the tappets, or smells, because i'm after making sure the car does the important things properly.

That is, it's reasonably quick, good on insurance and running costs, fun to drive, and reliable.

Rant over.

Silent? Perhaps if you are deaf.

I'm going to ignore this.
 
No tute it is fact that a 130bhp car is not brutal regardless of it being powered by diesel, petrol or horse poo. It's still 130bhp.

I've already covered why I said that. Are you going to just dwell on it or actually offer some advice?

[Edit] Actually, just forget it. I've had enough. RTM'd for the thread to be locked.
 
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