Petrol Vs. Diesel

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Which to choose?

Looking at 35mpg combined with a petrol and 47 with a diesel.

My commute is currently 20mins (9 miles) on the A1 each way. I do no more than 10,000 miles a year.
I was always under the impression that lots of smallish journeys would really hurt a diesel, but the dealer said that was utter tosh.

All thoughts welcome...
 
simple. diesel if you value cost over pleasure, petrol if not

if the cost saving is enough to offset the loss in driving pleasure then go for it
 
Using the current prices from the Morrison's petrol station opposite my window, based on the above MPG figures and 10,000 miles per year.

Petrol - 115.9ppl - £1505.38
Diesel - 117.9ppl - £1140.37

But that's ignoring everything else, such as servicing, insurance, tax etc, which will make more of a difference than the fuel costs.
What are the two cars, and their prices?

But, do you want a tool, or something you can enjoy?
 
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Seat Leon TSI FR or TDI FR...dealer says he sells 90% diesel, 10% petrol. Test drive the 170bhp diesel today, and from top end of 2nd onwards felt good. 1st to mid second was weakish as expected I guess, but you can't argue with the figures...
 
Absolutely has to be diesel really, you'd be potty to consider anything else. Loads of MPG and fantastic amounts of torque at the flywheel to really give you performance motoring. The lower mileage you do the better a diesel is for you.

The dealer is right, the diesel loves short trips and you'll never have any problems with clogging up the DPF. Why would you want a horrible petrol one for town driving?
 
[TW]Fox;17117569 said:
Absolutely has to be diesel really, you'd be potty to consider anything else. Loads of MPG and fantastic amounts of torque at the flywheel to really give you performance motoring. The lower mileage you do the better a diesel is for you.

The dealer is right, the diesel loves short trips and you'll never have any problems with clogging up the DPF. Why would you want a horrible petrol one for town driving?
:p
Go for the petrol :)
 
What's the power on the TSI FR?

I'd get the petrol in this case unless it's slower.
You're not doing enough miles to really reap the benefits, and you could end up with all sorts of DPF problems, not to mention the turbo, etc.
 
[TW]Fox;17117569 said:
Absolutely has to be diesel really, you'd be potty to consider anything else. Loads of MPG and fantastic amounts of torque at the flywheel to really give you performance motoring. The lower mileage you do the better a diesel is for you.

The dealer is right, the diesel loves short trips and you'll never have any problems with clogging up the DPF. Why would you want a horrible petrol one for town driving?

Honestly Fox, what are you like? I don't even know what DPF means, but from the start of your post, I knew you were against the diesel. I would however, value your opinion, in a sensible way, as I do read many a knowledgeable post from you...every now and then!
Did you test drive the petrol Leon? If not, do it.
They didn't have one in sadly, but they do have some model based on the A4 with the same engine as the petrol Leon.

What's the power on the TSI FR?

2.0 TSI FR is 200bhp stock, against 170 of TDI FR
 
DPF = Diesel Particulate Filter

It's an attempt to remove some of the smog that a diesel car produces.

Unless they get nice and warm, they get clogged up, and fail. Using a modern diesel on short trips is a great way to do this.

Most cars that I've ever seen come with something called a "gear lever" - this is used to pick the correct gear ratio so that you have maximum power at the wheels.

Torque at the engine is mostly irrelevant, as the gearboxes between a petrol and a diesel will have different ratios, and will either 1) provide equal torque at the wheels, or 2) not, and you'll find that a petrol is probably quicker once in the correct gear.
 
Drive both, buy the one you like most.

I dont think were talking about a big enough difference in costs here to worry about.
 
Honestly Fox, what are you like? I don't even know what DPF means, but from the start of your post, I knew you were against the diesel. I would however, value your opinion, in a sensible way, as I do read many a knowledgeable post from you...every now and then!

My opinion is basically the opposite of what I've just posted. By the petrol, it's quicker, smoother, quieter, more fun to drive and won't flash up a DPF warning light if you spend all your time in town.
 
I too would get the petrol if doing such short daily journeys, i would probably consider the diesel if say doing 30-40 Miles per day minimum.
 
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