PhenomTM 9600 Quad-Core?

ginge51 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:21

I've read a lot about this cpu and have been offered a very cheap.
Just wondering what everyones opinions on this are?

Thanks

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:36

if its very cheap then it'll be worth it. just remember it as the TLB bug, you'll probably won't ever see it.. also if your motherboard is am2 u should check to see if theres a bios update that supports the phemons first..

ginge51 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:42

gareth170 said:
if its very cheap then it'll be worth it. just remember it as the TLB bug, you'll probably won't ever see it..

Ok thanks m8

Is it a lot better then a 4400x2 dual core?

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:44

ginge51 said:
Ok thanks m8
Is it a lot better then a 4400x2 dual core?

depends... what do u use your pc for? also do u overclock?

ginge51 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:48

gareth170 said:
depends... what do u use your pc for? also do u overclock?

I have overclocked this 4400x2 before, but know I've put it back at stock speeds.
I'll be mainly using it as an upgrade for gaming.

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:51

ginge51 said:
I have overclocked this 4400x2 before, but know I've put it back at stock speeds.
I'll be mainly using it as an upgrade for gaming.

tbh in gaming u won't see much different if any, because most games only use 1-2 cores... also the 9500/9600 are difficult to overclock...

ginge51 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:53

Got to be better then this 4400x2 surly?

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:55

ginge51 said:
Got to be better then this 4400x2 surly?

in gaming no it won't,, because most games only use 1-2 cores... so it'll be the same.. because the 4400x2 is clocked at 2.3ghz and the 9600 is clocked at 2.3ghz

spicypixel · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:12

Kinda but it allows windows to load all the other processes into the other 2 cores, so the answer is its quicker.

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:16

spicypixel said:
Kinda but it allows windows to load all the other processes into the other 2 cores, so the answer is its quicker.

but he saying about gaming, which will be the same.. that why i said "in gaming no it won't"

ginge51 · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:46

gareth170 said:
but he saying about gaming, which will be the same.. that why i said "in gaming no it won't"

So no games these days take advantage of all 4 cores?
I'll put this cpu as future proof then.

gareth170 · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:56

ginge51 said:
So no games these days take advantage of all 4 cores?
I'll put this cpu as future proof then.

there are some games out that uses multi core... but not many yet..

notice i said "most games only use 1-2 cores"

matt100 · 24 Apr 2008 at 00:14

isn't the asrock dual sata 2 socket 939?

If it is then just forget the phenom, a socket change would be better served with a change to a core 2 mobo... period.

gareth170 · 24 Apr 2008 at 00:23

yep Asrock dual sata 2 is 939.. the phenom won't fit in it.... tbh i thought he was puting it in a am2 motherboard, that i didn't say anything.. :cool:

Lyle44 · 24 Apr 2008 at 00:26

matt100 said:
isn't the asrock dual sata 2 socket 939?

If it is then just forget the phenom, a socket change would be better served with a change to a core 2 mobo... period.

Yes correct is 939.

Not worth going for in my opinion.

-iceblade^ · 24 Apr 2008 at 01:42

sup com, and i think FS:X take advantage of Quads...

valentha · 24 Apr 2008 at 11:46

-iceblade^ said:
sup com, and i think FS:X take advantage of Quads...

Haveing just gone grom a 6400+ X2 to a 9850BE Phenom there has been a noticable improvment in OS speed . the only game I run at the moment is Crysis and on this there is no noticable improvement. however the windows experience has greatly improved along with unraring files / transcodeing.. For me its been a worthwhile upgrade

shaggyd · 24 Apr 2008 at 12:42

Soo... from what everyone are saying, if your cpu speed is 2.3Ghz then it makes no difference if you run an old 929pin 4400x2 or a brand spanking new AM2+ 9600 as the clocks are still the same. Unless your application uses 2 or more cpus.
Therefore, why are people upgrading to new processors if they have no visible differences (apart running Word loading quicker)?

gareth170 · 24 Apr 2008 at 12:55

shaggyd said:
Soo... from what everyone are saying, if your cpu speed is 2.3Ghz then it makes no difference if you run an old 929pin 4400x2 or a brand spanking new AM2+ 9600 as the clocks are still the same. Unless your application uses 2 or more cpus.
Therefore, why are people upgrading to new processors if they have no visible differences (apart running Word loading quicker)?

people don't just use they computers for gaming.. encodeing video/audio is much faster on quad core... also quad core allows u to run more apps without lagging..

-iceblade^ · 24 Apr 2008 at 12:55

no, it does... usually the newer the chip, the more it can do at a given speed. That's why a dual core E2140 can best a Pentium 4 *spit* 3ghz with HT...

even one of the E2140's cores will do whatever the pentium can do, faster, and when they reach the same speed, the gap increases...

It's called IPC, instructions per clock cycle.