Photography Desktop Pc

[garyl]

Hi all.



I'm looking for some advice on a new desktop pc. The choice is vast and a bit confusing. " For me"


I use the pc for general internet/email. Light use of Open office/excel. I enjoy photography so the pc would need to run Photoshop cc.


I am pretty confused over the processors e.g. i5 i7 i9. My current pc is an i7-3770 @3.40GHz

64 bit System

16gb ram

2tb sata drive


Windows 8


12 years old.


This as been a great pc and run Photoshop cs6 for ever. It is still quick on start up and great but It's time I started to use Photoshop cc plus the newer cameras require software not able to run on this system.


As you can tell I don't change my tech often so I would like to buy something that will last a while.


I am thinking to spend upto £1500.


My thoughts, off my limited knowledge are the pc would need.


Highest processor eg : Intel i9

64 Ram

1 tb ssd

4 tb sata drive

No idea as regards graphics apart from reading about Gpu ?


As you can see my knowledge is limited but I would really appreciate anyone wishing to point to a pc on the site that they think would fit, from my description.

Feel free to tell me i'm completely wrong with the above.
All advice is welcomed.

Thanks

Gaz

 

[mickyflinn]

Hi and welcome.

Wil you be building or pre built system?

Coming from 3770 anything modern will seem like a giant step up.

 

[Mel_P]

This as been a great pc and run Photoshop cs6 for ever. It is still quick on start up and great but it's time I started to use Photoshop cc plus the newer cameras require software not able to run on this system.
Gaz

I'm in the same position re Photoshop CS6 / old Lightroom BUT i just convert my RAW images to dng files using the free Adobe converter - does not loose any quality.
Mel

 

[mickyflinn]

I'm in the same position re Photoshop CS6 / old Lightroom BUT i just convert my RAW images to dng files using the free Adobe converter - does not loose any quality.
Mel

Do you use the GPU to render ?

If yes which one do you have ?

 

[Tetras]

This as been a great pc and run Photoshop cs6 for ever. It is still quick on start up and great but It's time I started to use Photoshop cc plus the newer cameras require software not able to run on this system.

...

My thoughts, off my limited knowledge are the pc would need.


Highest processor eg : Intel i9
64 Ram
1 tb ssd
4 tb sata drive

No idea as regards graphics apart from reading about Gpu ?

For 2D work / photoshop you don't normally need that many cores, it is mainly single core/thread, so personally I wouldn't bother with an i9 and the added complications in motherboard and cooling requirements.

They're starting to introduce more GPU-oriented features, even for 2D work, so while the IGP used to be fine, I'd suggest getting a 3060 12GB at this point.

Swap the CPU for i5-13500 (not available at OCUK).

Cooler: this (under £50).

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-13400 (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6BC-IN) = £229.99
• 1 x MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-37M-MS) = £160.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5200C40 (SKU: MY-4DC-CS) = £169.99
• 1 x MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-374-MS) = £278.99
• 1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95
• 1 x Crucial MX500 2.0TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6Gbps 7mm Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-06H-CR) = £109.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-08V-PT) = £139.99
• 1 x Seasonic Focus GX-850 ATX3.0 850W 80 Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-08M-SS) = £139.99

Total: £1,343.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Mel_P]

Do you use the GPU to render ?

If yes which one do you have ?

Yes - set up in preferences. Bit long in the tooth also:

Processor = Intel Core i7 920 / Noctua NH-U12P LGA1366
Graphics = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Mel

 

[garyl]

Hi and welcome.

Wil you be building or pre built system?

Coming from 3770 anything modern will seem like a giant step up.

Hi there thanks for your reply. I am wanting pre built.

Gaz

I'm in the same position re Photoshop CS6 / old Lightroom BUT i just convert my RAW images to dng files using the free Adobe converter - does not loose any quality.
Mel

Hi there.

Yes I have done that in the past.

I would normally use Canon Dpp4 for my Canon R6 files. Its slow but I like the simple layout. I would then transfer over to Cs6.
A few weeks back Windows got messed up somehow and the only solution was to refresh the pc.

Which solved the problem but reverted it back to Win 8 I was on Win 8.1.

Thus Canon dpp4 would not open my raws. Secondly my Cs6 was a dodgey copy which I threw out some time ago. I know I could most likley upgrade to 8.1 and maybe find a way to get on windows 10 but I have come to the conclusion I have had my monies worth and need to upgradE.
Gaz

For 2D work / photoshop you don't normally need that many cores, it is mainly single core/thread, so personally I wouldn't bother with an i9 and the added complications in motherboard and cooling requirements.

They're starting to introduce more GPU-oriented features, even for 2D work, so while the IGP used to be fine, I'd suggest getting a 3060 12GB at this point.

Swap the CPU for i5-13500 (not available at OCUK).

Cooler: this (under £50).

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-13400 (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6BC-IN) = £229.99
• 1 x MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-37M-MS) = £160.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5200C40 (SKU: MY-4DC-CS) = £169.99
• 1 x MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X OC 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-374-MS) = £278.99
• 1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95
• 1 x Crucial MX500 2.0TB 2.5" SSD SATA 6Gbps 7mm Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-06H-CR) = £109.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-08V-PT) = £139.99
• 1 x Seasonic Focus GX-850 ATX3.0 850W 80 Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-08M-SS) = £139.99

Total: £1,343.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Hi There

Really appreciate you putting this togther. Explaining the Intel core processor helps too.
I maybe stating the obvious but the above basket is for me to build ?
Plus purchase win 11.
If so is there pre built pc you would reccomend.

Thanks
Gaz

 

[mickyflinn]

Hi there thanks for your reply. I am wanting pre built.

Gaz


Hi there.

Yes I have done that in the past.

I would normally use Canon Dpp4 for my Canon R6 files. Its slow but I like the simple layout. I would then transfer over to Cs6.
A few weeks back Windows got messed up somehow and the only solution was to refresh the pc.

Which solved the problem but reverted it back to Win 8 I was on Win 8.1.

Thus Canon dpp4 would not open my raws. Secondly my Cs6 was a dodgey copy which I threw out some time ago. I know I could most likley upgrade to 8.1 and maybe find a way to get on windows 10 but I have come to the conclusion I have had my monies worth and need to upgradE.
Gaz

Hi There

Really appreciate you putting this togther. Explaining the Intel core processor helps too.
I maybe stating the obvious but the above basket is for me to build ?
Plus purchase win 11.
If so is there pre built pc you would reccomend.

Thanks
Gaz

Ok so I rejigged @Tetras build and dropped to 2tb m2 but more can be added later if needed ,.Added windows and upped the CPU slightly but could drop back down to 13400 and you may be able to squeeze in that extra storage.

Overclockers will charge you about £150 to build this and then it's covered with a 3 year warranty.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 3060 Twin Edge LHR 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-12G-ZT) = £269.99
• 1 x MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5 Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-013-MS) = £79.99
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AV-IN) = £319.99
• 1 x MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-37M-MS) = £160.00
• 1 x MSI SPATIUM M480 Pro 2TB SSD PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-MSI-00815) = £114.95
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7BG-LL) = £89.98
• 1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 Black Edition CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-001-KK) = £27.95
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £109.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5200C40 (SKU: MY-4DC-CS) = £170.00

Total: £1,354.82 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

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[Tetras]

I maybe stating the obvious but the above basket is for me to build ?
Plus purchase win 11.

Yes.

If so is there pre built pc you would reccomend.

I don't really keep up with pre-built prices, so I can only make suggestions based on a little browsing.

AMD/AMD

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Oxygen - AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, GeForce RTX 4060Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1BZ-OG) = £1,495.96
  • Case: 1 x SYSTEM OFFER - APNX Creator C1 Blue Mist Limited Edition Mid Tower Case
  • Graphics Card: 1 x SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture
  • Memory: 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5600Z40)
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3
  • 2.5" Solid State Drive: 1 x Samsung 2TB 870 QVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-77Q2T0BW)
  • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,495.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Intel/nvidia
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Sabre - Intel 12th Gen i5, RTX 4060 Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1FA-OG) = £1,518.04
  • Case: 1 x Kolink Unity Lateral ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black
  • Processor: 1 x Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.70GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
  • Graphics Card: 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4060 Dual 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
  • Memory: 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
  • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 1 : 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3
  • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 2 : 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3
  • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,518.04 (includes delivery: £0.00)​