Picking yourself up when you've hit rock bottom

Deadbeat said:
Totally worth the loss of a career, in my opinion.
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I almost agree. Kids get away with way too much in classrooms now. As I was leaving school 4 years ago, the years below me were beyond awful. One time one of my techers snapped and headbutted a kid who was constantly messing around. The kid never misbehaved again.
 
I'll be happy to talk to you via e-mail if you like :) I am still jobless 4 months on, but got an interview next week I'm fairly confident I can nail. More money than teaching and more money than my old job :p
 
Deadbeat said:
Totally worth the loss of a career, in my opinion.
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Of course i wasnt being serious enough to tell the OP to do what he did ie the guy in the article.

Personally kids get away with far too much in schools these days...just thankful that i didnt get in teaching myself.
 
My sisters a teacher and shes getting out too, constant abuse, lack of support, ferral kids that threaten to sue if she raises her voice.

Remember when you were as scared of your teachers wrath a much as your mum or dads??
Kids need more beatings.
 
Just keep trying to remember that its only 7 weeks...

If you give up now - you are probably likely to regret it and always wonder what if etc.

I work in a school (not as a teacher luckily!) and it can be a rough place to work. The other teachers in the department are probably as down about working as you are. The teachers are all probably just trying to cope with all the constant changes that are passed down to them. I know ours seems that way.

Whether you decide to carry on in teaching or not you will probably be happier just sticking out the 7 weeks and knowing you haven't been beaten.

Ask for support from your mentor (if you have one), or someone in SLT that deals with trainee teachers and voice that you would like some points when dealing with behaviour etc....

Good luck with it!
 
Oxy said:
I'll be happy to talk to you via e-mail if you like :) I am still jobless 4 months on, but got an interview next week I'm fairly confident I can nail. More money than teaching and more money than my old job :p
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I'd appreciate that Oxy. Is it your trust email?

Spawn and others: That's part of the problem with the children I teach, they literally do not care what happens to them. If I put them in detention they don't turn up and if I then raise this with people above me they do nothing about it. The school on the whole is lazy. They get by with the minimum, there's no drive to push the kids. It feels like the school on the whole doesn't care about the kids.

I now truly understand why there is a shortage of teachers at secondary.
 
Efour2 said:
My sisters a teacher and shes getting out too, constant abuse, lack of support, ferral kids that threaten to sue if she raises her voice.

Remember when you were as scared of your teachers wrath a much as your mum or dads??
Kids need more beatings.
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As I have got older I have met more foriegn people through work some have wives who are teaching assistant and it seems to be worse in UK. We just seem to have lost some of our children even at 5 years old.
 
Deiwos said:
I'd appreciate that Oxy. Is it your trust email?

Spawn and others: That's part of the problem with the children I teach, they literally do not care what happens to them. If I put them in detention they don't turn up and if I then raise this with people above me they do nothing about it. The school on the whole is lazy. They get by with the minimum, there's no drive to push the kids. It feels like the school on the whole doesn't care about the kids.

I now truly understand why there is a shortage of teachers at secondary.
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yeh thats my trust, e-mail works.
 
monkeysmith said:
Can you ask a teacher at the school who is excellent at behaviour management for some pointers. Ask them to come and observe/you observe them. .
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This is exactly what my father said.
He would have been the one junior teachers would have referred to when they were having issues. If it was a particluar individual he would have deal with them specifically, but often he just gave pointers, and might randomly appear in a classroom and use that as an opportunity to see whats going on.


It will be good to finish and get your teaching qualification. Do that, no matter what. Whether you wish to teach or not, finish the damn course and qualify.
You can bet if you have issues with that class, others do too.


After you're done, remeber that you can go to postgrad study, where a teaching qualification may assist if you wish to go into lecturing. Remember the higher the level you teach, the more the folks want to learn and the less guff they give you back.


A-level classes are usually easier to teach than first-third years.
 
Just do the bare minimum so that you won't get sacked. Follow the rules and do whatever they tell you and just wait for your paycheque. Seriously it sounds like you are trying to hard. I fell in to that same trap when I first started working. You just need to keep your mouth shut, be a yes-man and wait for your cheque.

Then hopefully you will make enough to send your own kids to a private school.
 
kwerk said:
Just do the bare minimum so that you won't get sacked. Follow the rules and do whatever they tell you and just wait for your paycheque. Seriously it sounds like you are trying to hard. I fell in to that same trap when I first started working. You just need to keep your mouth shut, be a yes-man and wait for your cheque.

Then hopefully you will make enough to send your own kids to a private school.
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(un)fortunately I'm only a trainee so I don't even have the paycheque to keep me going. Hell, I'd imagine the £1500 at the end of the month would keep me going no end.

Thanks for the words of encouragement everyone.


Out of interest, has anyone been feeling in a similar state of mind to me and been able to shake it? If so, how'd you do it?
 
Oxy said:
I think there is very few in UK now that do not have such issues. They don't explain this on the adverts or at interview lol.
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I always get annoyed at the teacher adverts on TV (and I'm a pupil lol) because they are so totally wishful and unrealistic, the red bull adverts bear more semblance to reality than the teaching adverts. :mad:

I'd hate to be a teacher - just stand there tying to explain something while half the class chats about TV or draws a penis on each others books. A-level and early primary school would be OK imo, but all the other years I'd hate to teach... Feel sorry for all you teachers out there.
 
yea sucks to be the op, either teach adults or nursery kids/year1 or non at all imo
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Getting a little off topic but isn't that part of the problem? Might be simplifying the situation a bit but all the wimps (no offence intended, thinking of the teachers at my sons school a few of which are excellent and rest I wouldn't give the time of day too) who cannot hack it but end up teaching impressionable early learners. Surely this is a major cause of the **** up that secondary school has become as these kids are growing up spending a large majority of the day with idiots in charge of them
 
Crack on with the last 7 weeks lad.

But, i believe... You should not be unhappy in life, and if your job is a major hinderance in that. Then you should not be in that job.

Imo :)
 
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