Pipex & P2P

The Mad Rapper

The Mad Rapper

The Mad Rapper

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Do Pipex restrict the use of Torrent clients at all? I've had a look on their site but can't see anything that mentions it either way.

I am on their 8MB Max Unlimited service, but my trial d/l last night was dreadfully slow - around 20kb/s :(

FTP d/ls fly down - very annoying.
 
Correct, torrents to 20Kb/s and usenet to I believe 70kb/s, plus their definition of unlimited is 70Gb a month although they won't admit to any of that officially.

Which is why I'm now on UKFSN. I'm not that bothered about caps and traffic shaping, I know it's not possible to run a truely unlimited service for the money. What I object to however, is being told one thing when the opposite is quite plainly the truth.
 
yeah, same problem here on Pipex, you can try and get round their throttling of p2p through the us of transport encryption but in my experience it helps very little.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
As far as im aware Pipex traffic shape.
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Stupid question but what does that mean, Im on pipex and am having no end of trouble, and they have asked me to fill in a traffic management questionnaire, but I heard them say something about traffic shaping, and now wonder what it means.
Thanks
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Do Pipex restrict the use of Torrent clients at all? I've had a look on their site but can't see anything that mentions it either way.

I am on their 8MB Max Unlimited service, but my trial d/l last night was dreadfully slow - around 20kb/s :(

FTP d/ls fly down - very annoying.
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UTorrent encryption is your friend ;)
 
Tried the encryption on my Pipex line, it didn't make a massive difference.

I'd rather they just capped my unlimited service at 100GB a month but let me d/l at full speed. Bloody annoying having to wait 2 weeks for a d/l that should take a few hours :(

There was nothing on their web site when I signed up to the service that suggested they restricted the speed at which I could d/l - I would not have used them if they had been upfront.
 
The encryption does work, but then again it depends on the p2p site or client you are using. I was with Pipex and managed to overcome the traffic shaping using this getting 100k on a 1mb line.

Pipex are no longer worth considering due to various measures including p2p, i would opt out if you can and take your business elsewhere as they are not cheap either.

If p2p is your thing maybe Be unlimited will fit the bill? I am there now and although i would have to say there are issues with stability at the moment the 1mb upload and for me 6mb down far outweigh the same price i was paying for Pipex.

The choice is yours, but with BE you can bail out with 3 months notice .
 
sedj said:
The encryption does work, but then again it depends on the p2p site or client you are using. I was with Pipex and managed to overcome the traffic shaping using this getting 100k on a 1mb line.
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I am using BitComet and uTorrent. I have encryption enabled on both, but rarely see more then 30kb/s on a 8MB line. Tried at work using same clients on a BT 2MB line and it's the same result.

I have no idea what the problem is - any ideas? I feel my d/ls should be a lot faster then this.
 
rpstewart said:
70kb/s, plus their definition of unlimited is 70Gb a month although they won't admit to any of that officially.
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I did have my usenet downloads going at 70k but it turned out to be a fault on the line at just the same time they started vigorously jerking their fup in people's faces.

As far as I know they are traffic shaping, but it's meant to be intelligent enough to throttle itself so that everyone gets the same service. That was Pipex's official stance on it last time I spoke to one of their senior tech support guys (they actually know what their talking about compared to the rest of the tech monkeys there).

70 gig cap is correct, at least in the sense that they won't ask you to leave if you stay below it, thing is they could change that figure whenever they wanted.
 
I read a post elsewhere on this forum recommending the Azerus client. I've installed it, configured the encryption, and my d/l has increased from 20kb/s to over 200 kb/s.

Clearly the encryption in Azerus has been implemented in a different way to the encryption used in uTorrent/BitComet, because the traffic is still shaped using those clients with encryption enabled.

I am very happy with this TBH :)
 
I've just had a letter from Pipex. Basically I didn't reply with the FUP letter they sent me 2 weeks ago (my guess is if I sign it I then comply with the new FUP policy, which I don't agree to, and didn't sign up in the first place) so they're suspending my account.

Doesn't bother me as I'm closing the account anyway.

But I think it's disgusting a paying customer gets chucked off because I'm "downloading too much"

This would never happen in the US or Japan....but being the UK getting ripped off with limited services, as usual and expected to swallow it. :mad:

It's disgusting there allowed to chance T&C of a signed contract, yet I wonder if I send them a letter saying "sorry, I'm not paying you £24 a month but I think I'll pay £15 a month, tough luck"
 
yup, it it wrong, they can just change the terms in the contract whenever they feel like it. I don't really understand how that works, because you sign to say you agree to certain terms, if they then change those terms surly, you haven't agreed to a bid by them :rolleyes:

//edit whats the point in having a contract if their going to change it to suit themselves anyway.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I am using BitComet and uTorrent. I have encryption enabled on both, but rarely see more then 30kb/s on a 8MB line. Tried at work using same clients on a BT 2MB line and it's the same result.

I have no idea what the problem is - any ideas? I feel my d/ls should be a lot faster then this.
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Im having the same prob on BT Broadband and i also have encryption enabled :(
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I read a post elsewhere on this forum recommending the Azerus client. I've installed it, configured the encryption, and my d/l has increased from 20kb/s to over 200 kb/s.

Clearly the encryption in Azerus has been implemented in a different way to the encryption used in uTorrent/BitComet, because the traffic is still shaped using those clients with encryption enabled.

I am very happy with this TBH :)
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thanks for the top tip, i'll give it a whirl when i get home later.

my pipex service seems to be a bit up and down. overnight on a highly available torrent i have seen it jump up to 400kbps but most of the time i rarely see above 2-30kbps. definately just the p2p stuff they are doing though because i can pull ftp and http downloads at between 2-400kbps most of the time.
 
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