== PIRACY AND COMPETITORS STOP NOW ==

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Davey_Pitch said:
You can't list the allowed shops though, there are simply too many to go through them all. Even I don't know all of them!
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Purely for this section then.

The fact that something such as GAME was a big no for ages, then suddenly allowed doesn't help. It's the are-they/aren't-they shops such as **** and ****** (I've had to give an idea, but I'm not advertising them though!), for me I wouldn't even come close to comparing them to Overclockers.

The otherone from last year that really bugged the hell out of me was that HMV was allowed, yet Virgin Megastores was banned. Is it still? I dunno.
 
~J~ said:
So with that comment, is it fair to say that one day MemberA joins the forum and says he's purchased something from "PitchPlayProducts" at a discount cost, excellent service, blah blah blah. The mod at the time is unaware this is a competitor. Word gets around about this new company, next thing you know it's discussed left right and centre and then one day, totally out of the blue, it's brought to light that this is a competitor?

Surely if that's the case there should be at least 'something' that notifies each member of a violation.
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In cases like that, a thread should be made explaining the situation and that the company is now considered a competitor and not to be discussed any more. If I were a Don making that thread, I'd name the company and say that's the last time I wanted to see it mentioned.
 
McDaniel said:
tbh if we had an ACTIVE console mod this would not have happened, but then OcUK decided to get rid of Davey.... :o
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I know, the fact that all 3 we have aren't actively involved in the games section is annoying. For me, you'd be better getting rid of those 3 and getting someone like McDaniel to do it. It's also a bit crazy that DaveyD gets promoted yet doesn't moderate a section he continually posts in, and one thats under-moderated and over-populated (it's probably the second most active 'general' section after discussion.
 
NokkonWud said:
Purely for this section then.

The fact that something such as GAME was a big no for ages, then suddenly allowed doesn't help. It's the are-they/aren't-they shops such as p**y and a****n (I've had to give an idea, but I'm not advertising them though!), for me I wouldn't even come close to comparing them to Overclockers.

The otherone from last year that really bugged the hell out of me was that HMV was allowed, yet Virgin Megastores was banned. Is it still? I dunno.
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I was referring to this section, the list of places online that sell games is huge.

The fact that Game became an allowed store, I'll take a little credit for that, I remember arguing that it (among other game stores) should be allowed as they weren't direct competitors and one of the huge benefits to this forum was the members informing others of great deals to be had. I'm pretty sure I made a thread at the time informing people it was now allowed and the reasons behind it, it was never suddenly allowed with no announcement.

As for Virgin/HMV, I don't recall one being allowed while one wasn't. If it was the case I was never informed of it while I was a Don.
 
I was edited twice for using 'Virgin Megastores' in the past, however HMV has always been allowed. I don't know who the moderator was, he didn't leave his calling card.
 
Duradrum said:
Do you really think that a little forum like Ocuk will get into trouble for discussing modifications to consoles etc?. lol.

There are far bigger and badder sites out there that have existed for years without trouble. Xbox scene and AV Forums rules are no where near as strict as this forum. Do you see them pooing their pants every time someone mentions modification? No.

Why does Ocuk think it has some kind of elite existance? And do they seriously believe a forum owner will get into trouble? Serious question. The odds have to be like 1 in a million.
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My sentiments exactly, i dont think anyone has the time or effort to actually go out and start legal proceedings against the owner of a forum etc. Its just scare-mongering at its best and as someone mentioned below...it has absolutely nothing to do with how much money a forum owner has...thats a ridiculous arguement and is flawed. You dont think the owners or owner of AVforums dont have money??, of course they do..probably quite a bit especially with the bandwidth fees they must be paying...
 
Spawn said:
My sentiments exactly, i dont think anyone has the time or effort to actually go out and start legal proceedings against the owner of a forum etc. Its just scare-mongering at its best and as someone mentioned below...it has absolutely nothing to do with how much money a forum owner has...thats a ridiculous arguement and is flawed. You dont think the owners or owner of AVforums dont have money??, of course they do..probably quite a bit especially with the bandwidth fees they must be paying...
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Drop it mate, it's a rule that's never going to be changed, so there's no point arguing over it.
 
NokkonWud said:
I was edited twice for using 'Virgin Megastores' in the past, however HMV has always been allowed. I don't know who the moderator was, he didn't leave his calling card.
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Thats cos for a time OCUK where also stocking Virgins, but it was only on a trial basis ;)
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Drop it mate, it's a rule that's never going to be changed, so there's no point arguing over it.
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Whos asking for it to be changed??, not me;) and im not arguing about it either...just making a point and a valid one at that;).
 
Spawn said:
Whos asking for it to be changed??, not me;) and im not arguing about it either...just making a point and a valid one at that;).
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You're making a point about something that will never be changed (whether you're asking or not), so what you're really doing is wasting forum space :p
 
NokkonWud said:
I know, the fact that all 3 we have aren't actively involved in the games section is annoying. For me, you'd be better getting rid of those 3 and getting someone like McDaniel to do it. It's also a bit crazy that DaveyD gets promoted yet doesn't moderate a section he continually posts in, and one thats under-moderated and over-populated (it's probably the second most active 'general' section after discussion.
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I still do a lot, as much as I can, just for the most part you wont see what I'm doing. Most of the time console forum is fine, but when big issues like GoW and PS3 launches come up, there's a hell of a lot to be done and watched.
 
I do not see how you have to be highly active in a section to moderate it?

It is impartial moderation, surely not being part of the debate and not having any interest and opinion in most of the topics is a good thing, as it allows for me to view things from a third party's perspecttive?

Just RTM anything if you see it, they all do get looked at. Although some people RTM others posts purely for them having a different viewpoint to them.

If you have a problem with the moderation do something about it and RTM the posts; simple really like everything on here.

If action can be taken against Spie; due to piracy, then why would HE run the risk of some immature tool posting and getting him in trouble?

DaveyD said:
I still do a lot, as much as I can, just for the most part you wont see what I'm doing. Most of the time console forum is fine, but when big issues like GoW and PS3 launches come up, there's a hell of a lot to be done and watched.
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Tell me about it. :)

The rules are simple, keep to them or your on a holiday.
 
i'll moderate these game forums, after all everyone hates me ;)

its about time the rules was pointed out to a few who thought they could get away with their Preview Copies
 
Yewen said:
I do not see how you have to be highly active in a section to moderate it?
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You don't necessarily, but being highly active in a section gives you a better understanding of the issues being raised and where moderation may be needed.

It is impartial moderation, surely not being part of the debate and not having any interest and opinion in most of the topics is a good thing, as it allows for me to view things from a third party's perspecttive?
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Not being part of the debate is one thing, not seeing the debate turn into a flaming match through not being active in the forum is something completely different altogether.

Now I'm not having a go at anyone at all here, but having an active mod presence in a forum is often enough to deter people as they know the mod is there and will spot any infractions and deal with them quickly. It's something I feel is the key to successful moderation in every single forum, not specifically this one.
 
Moonpie2 said:
I'm still not sure where we/I stand on discussing original factory sealed imports on unmodified consoles.
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As I said earlier, if you can play the import on a standard console with no modification then there should be no problems discussing that game. That's just my take on the rules however.
 
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