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Also known as The Doppler Effect.
Plane crash video from inside cockpit - must see!
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Also known as The Doppler Effect.
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I agree - it was a poor decision to keep flying after that takeoff. Conditions were clearly not good. Glad they were all alive though.
V1
It's a light aircraft on a grass runway, V1 doesn't exist. It's a 4 seater with 3(?) people inside. Apparently it was to do with atmospheric conditions. A jumbo won't fly at 100k, doesn't mean it's too heavy
The pilot could have turned around but there was no guarantee the turn wouldn't have made the plane sink anyway. Doomed from the get-go unfortunately.
Only played FSX for a month or so before dropping it, you can tell from my crappy aviation knowledge.
It's a GoPro with what is obviously the fully waterproof back on. Yes the audio is muffled - as you would expect from a fully water proofed unit.
There is a non-waterproof back it ships with that has clear audio.
No need to take it back considering that is perfectly normal. Feel free to tell every big TV/Recording studio to ditch their 1,000s of GoPros for being crap though!
At about 1:20 it was apparent it was too heavy, hot and high to work. If he was familiar with the aircraft he should have realised this. I'm guessing after he got the wheels up, the confirmation bias kicked in, i.e. "It's in the air, we'll be okay".
The lot of them are very lucky. This just highlights how essential performance calculations are for EVERY flight, no matter how well you think you know your aircraft.
The lot of them are very lucky. This just highlights how essential performance calculations are for EVERY flight, no matter how well you think you know your aircraft.
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from my impressive experience of flying light aircraft* i could tell that the aircraft had a serious problem, what that problem might have been i dont know but something was stopping it from taking off. the pilot is an absolute idiot for trying to take a plane into the air in that condition, especially since he had passengers.
*1 hour in a piper warrior
(a piloting experience day from redletterdays)
*1 hour in a piper warrior
(a piloting experience day from redletterdays)
I just read elsewhere that the density altitude on the day was over 8000ft and they were 4 up in a 160hp normally aspirated aircraft. Taking off in a valley (downdraughts, temperature inversions etc.) it's a complete recipe for disaster.
It has been mentioned that the pilot was 70. I don't mean to be ageist or anything like that but I do find the older generation to be more stubborn and less willing to lose face, therefore tending to continue with a poor plan. Could be a contributing factor I suppose.
This thread has just made me double check my W&B figures for tomorrow
It has been mentioned that the pilot was 70. I don't mean to be ageist or anything like that but I do find the older generation to be more stubborn and less willing to lose face, therefore tending to continue with a poor plan. Could be a contributing factor I suppose.
This thread has just made me double check my W&B figures for tomorrow
I was surprised by how firmly he was holding onto the ipad during the slowmo bit, think i would be more focused on wrapping my arms over my head. Impressive to see the trees getting mulched up during the crash, very lucky they all survived!
If he was a good pilot he'd have aborted when he did his performance calculations, long before setting foot in the plane.
Having watched the video and assuming familiarity with the plane, at about 1:20 when the plane first got airborne, sat in ground effect for a bit and once out of ground effect began to sink again. At that point it would be blatantly obvious that the aircraft was operating outside the performance envelope and it just wasn't going to work. If it were me, at that point I'd have closed the throttle, set it down and left it for another day. I like to think I'd never let it get to that stage though!
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