Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running
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Saucony Peregrines are my go to for that in between trainer.
Last 5k run today before flying off to some Romanian mountains on Fri, ended up running 3 out of 4 days in a row and ran a little on my walk to test the Salomons in between so legs feel a little battered without practice!
Been a good mental exercise because didn't feel like turning up to any of those runs, not sure when this runner's high is meant to make its appearance!
Been a good mental exercise because didn't feel like turning up to any of those runs, not sure when this runner's high is meant to make its appearance!
Soldato
I've decided part of my problem (other than injury!) is that i have no future events.
I was eyeing up a 21km event in November in Spain. It's the same place where the "Vertical kilometer" i posted about earlier in the year is based. However it's sold out. There is a marathon based distance, however it comes with 9000ft of ascent. Around half of it being in the first 5km!
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I can't decide if it's too much of a push and whether it's stupid until i know what my foot is healing like!
I was eyeing up a 21km event in November in Spain. It's the same place where the "Vertical kilometer" i posted about earlier in the year is based. However it's sold out. There is a marathon based distance, however it comes with 9000ft of ascent. Around half of it being in the first 5km!
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I can't decide if it's too much of a push and whether it's stupid until i know what my foot is healing like!
November's not many weeks away really, are you already in Spain around the time? Could be expensive if you organise then have foot issues.
I booked in for a sports massage next week just want to see how it goes, if it helps I'll make it regular.
Went out and did 6 miles today with a pack on, I have the salomon adv skin 5. I put as much of mandatory kit I own into it along with the two flasks, one with tailwind in other with water.
I don't normally take anything bar my watch and house keys on this kinda distance but want to start early as possible getting used to running with kit.
The vest runs rather hot, I had a wind jacket in the pocket that goes round the back and it was rather wet. Deffo need water proof bags for stuff in it. I do sweat a lot and do drink a lot when I have it available so drank the tailwind and half of the water. Tailwind was nice and was easier to consume than gels. Again don't normally bother on this distance but want to be as used to nutrition as I can.
I think the adv skin 5 can fit everything in but noticed the straps across the front have started to mark my chest so going to grab a harrier 10l one when my size is in stock and see how I get on with that one. Also purchased some mandatory safety stuff (bivy / first aid kit), collapsible cup, waterproof bag and a set of running poles. No idea how illl get on with poles so will get a running friend to show me.
I booked in for a sports massage next week just want to see how it goes, if it helps I'll make it regular.
Went out and did 6 miles today with a pack on, I have the salomon adv skin 5. I put as much of mandatory kit I own into it along with the two flasks, one with tailwind in other with water.
I don't normally take anything bar my watch and house keys on this kinda distance but want to start early as possible getting used to running with kit.
The vest runs rather hot, I had a wind jacket in the pocket that goes round the back and it was rather wet. Deffo need water proof bags for stuff in it. I do sweat a lot and do drink a lot when I have it available so drank the tailwind and half of the water. Tailwind was nice and was easier to consume than gels. Again don't normally bother on this distance but want to be as used to nutrition as I can.
I think the adv skin 5 can fit everything in but noticed the straps across the front have started to mark my chest so going to grab a harrier 10l one when my size is in stock and see how I get on with that one. Also purchased some mandatory safety stuff (bivy / first aid kit), collapsible cup, waterproof bag and a set of running poles. No idea how illl get on with poles so will get a running friend to show me.
Soldato
Yeah, we arrive the first week of October. The downside being that this is only the second week in a long time i'll likely hit 20 miles for the week. My fitness is certainly a long way off and this isn't going to be any normal nice road marathon, or even a runnable trail marathon. It's over some horrifically technical terrain which will punish my foot even at full fitness.
The sensible approach is definitely to sack this off. I want to do the 100km version in the future so maybe it's just a deferred event.
Someone on Facebook posted a link to a very 90's website for events in the area. Maybe i'll target a smaller local event.
Look at it. It's ******* horrific.
The sensible approach is definitely to sack this off. I want to do the 100km version in the future so maybe it's just a deferred event.
Someone on Facebook posted a link to a very 90's website for events in the area. Maybe i'll target a smaller local event.
Look at it. It's ******* horrific.
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Rehab/test run today. I'm tending to try these every Saturday. Lasted 1.68km before pain kicked in. Walked home.
So advice needed from those who have had injuries in past. Is this a reasonable approach? Rehab during week and test run once a week?
Should try 1km a day ? Or is that risking extending the injury ?
So advice needed from those who have had injuries in past. Is this a reasonable approach? Rehab during week and test run once a week?
Should try 1km a day ? Or is that risking extending the injury ?
Soldato
Planning on renting rooms with Air BnB?
That would be the dream. Depends on whether i can convince the wife. Think it will come down to whether we have enough land to put some Airbnb rooms away from the main house, as she doesn't want to share the pool etc
I'd love to host cycling/running retreats
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Hard to really know. What i did for my test runs coming back from my ankle were to be more structured rather than just "run until pain", but run for X time, then walk, then run again. That way you're not running to the point of pain/aggrivation. However this was from an ankle sprain.
I can't remember, have you spoken to a Physio? Probably worth asking their advice.
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Trying to run in full blown sun and 30 degrees and just as hot breeze is something else, only managed 4k out of 5k before I gave up and just decided to walk the remainder
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Would it be safe to move from running 5k every other day to say Monday + Tuesday, rest day Wednesday, Thursday+Friday+Saturday, rest day Sunday ?
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Safe? Probably. Wise, maybe not. Depends on what you are trying to achieve. Explain yourself.
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Id say it really depends on lots of factors.
How long you’ve been running and how hard an intensity you’re running at.
There are people out there that’ve ran 5k every single day for multiple years and others that’d fall apart from rushing things too soon.
As long as you’re taking it easy and listen to your body there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able. Lots of people run 5-6 times a week and more.
How long you’ve been running and how hard an intensity you’re running at.
There are people out there that’ve ran 5k every single day for multiple years and others that’d fall apart from rushing things too soon.
As long as you’re taking it easy and listen to your body there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able. Lots of people run 5-6 times a week and more.
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Just need some extra calories burned, so being able to cram 5 runs in a week vs 4 one and 3 the other, seems to make sense as least unenjoyable option to burn calories, I've only been doing full 5k runs for about a month though but I've already hit a weight plateau where I'm neither gaining nor losing and I'm about, changing diet isn't option as I've already done that, I've gone from losing about 300g a day to zero since I hit repeating the 5k runs, I could increase the 5k I guess but I'd prefer more 5k runs in shorter time than having to do 10k
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Im not too much of an expert with nutrition of weight loss is the only goal then you might be better to just get advice from there.
As long as you feel ok though and take it easy with no niggles etc then you should be find increasing your runs.
As long as you feel ok though and take it easy with no niggles etc then you should be find increasing your runs.
There's a few people in running groups online who run for 100s of days in a row and some bigger distance (15k+) so it can be done. Although 5k is pretty low distance i'd be cautious about adding another day into the mix as the body does need time to recover. You could look at changing what you're doing on your running days so either making a run longer distance so you're working for longer or changing it so you're doing more fast work to get the HR up? 5k up hills will use more than 5k down hills 
I'd still look at food though, usually can be cut back; i know mine can i just accept that i'm not loosing weight at a high rate as i still eat the odd junk food but it makes me happy rather than just eating low calorie food all the time.
Went to a sports physio person last week, mixed thoughts on it really. You book an hour session but i was in there for 15-20 mins, he said my 'tibialis anterios?' so did some ultrasound on it and said my glute was tight so massaged that. I noticed on longer runs a bit of pain from my big toe to my ankle and sometimes to the bottom of my shin where it meets the ankle. He said he would send me some exercises to do and ended the session.
Mixed emotions in paying a chunk for a small period mind.
So 4 days later and no exercises sent over i decided to have a drive up to Pete Bland Sports in Kendal which is about 45 mins away normally (hour and a bit this time due to traffic) and wore my normal running stuff, i asked them about it and i got on the treadmill to check out what's going on when i run. Oddly my right foot (one with pain) overpronates when running and my left one is pretty much fine. He checked my stance normally and it seems i just overpronate on my right foot naturally. He said it can be caused by things such as injury or weak muscles but also explained it can be natural for the individual. I tried on a pair off Asics Culumlus 25 which he advised is a neutral shoe with a bit of support and the difference on the treadmill was clear as it pretty much made it perfect. They are quite expensive for some of their shoes and these were a tadge expensive so he had a look and he's found a few pairs of varying shoes they have in my size so is going to get them from the warehouse for next friday when i go back down. Think there some Saucony ones hes getting over, tempus and triumph maybe? He said doing short distances in what i have may not be to bad but as mileage increases the strain will cause issues. I also grabbed a head torch whilst there and tried on numerous running back packs.
Ultimate Direction pack was uncomfortable due to the bit you attach the chest straps to being really hard.
Inov8's pro 8 was mega comfy so they found the 2-1 which unfortunately was not, as the bottles diged in to my stomach, although i think it would be ok if i moved them to the high points.
I tried on the Montane Gecko 12+ and that was perfect for me, well apart from the price which was around £130, they said they have last years in the warehouse which is £65 and not to much different so they're getting that over from the warehouse for me when i'm down next Friday.
I did go out when i got back from Kendal, thought i'd give my nike Invincibles a run out instead of my asics noosa tri and toe and foot pain came around at 7 miles into an 8 mile run. Frustrating. I'm going to clean them up and chuck them on ebay as they've only done about 80 miles. Next time i go out i might try my Adios Pro 3 on a normal run, suspect they're stabler than the Invincibles as they have a good firm foam. If not i'll just keep the runs below 5 miles until i grab a pair of more supporting shoes. Bit of a pain as it limits my choice but i cannot risk injury over a fancy pair of shoes when ideally i need to be upping to around 50 mpw by feb next year.
I'd still look at food though, usually can be cut back; i know mine can i just accept that i'm not loosing weight at a high rate as i still eat the odd junk food but it makes me happy rather than just eating low calorie food all the time. Went to a sports physio person last week, mixed thoughts on it really. You book an hour session but i was in there for 15-20 mins, he said my 'tibialis anterios?' so did some ultrasound on it and said my glute was tight so massaged that. I noticed on longer runs a bit of pain from my big toe to my ankle and sometimes to the bottom of my shin where it meets the ankle. He said he would send me some exercises to do and ended the session.
Mixed emotions in paying a chunk for a small period mind.
So 4 days later and no exercises sent over i decided to have a drive up to Pete Bland Sports in Kendal which is about 45 mins away normally (hour and a bit this time due to traffic) and wore my normal running stuff, i asked them about it and i got on the treadmill to check out what's going on when i run. Oddly my right foot (one with pain) overpronates when running and my left one is pretty much fine. He checked my stance normally and it seems i just overpronate on my right foot naturally. He said it can be caused by things such as injury or weak muscles but also explained it can be natural for the individual. I tried on a pair off Asics Culumlus 25 which he advised is a neutral shoe with a bit of support and the difference on the treadmill was clear as it pretty much made it perfect. They are quite expensive for some of their shoes and these were a tadge expensive so he had a look and he's found a few pairs of varying shoes they have in my size so is going to get them from the warehouse for next friday when i go back down. Think there some Saucony ones hes getting over, tempus and triumph maybe? He said doing short distances in what i have may not be to bad but as mileage increases the strain will cause issues. I also grabbed a head torch whilst there and tried on numerous running back packs.
Ultimate Direction pack was uncomfortable due to the bit you attach the chest straps to being really hard.
Inov8's pro 8 was mega comfy so they found the 2-1 which unfortunately was not, as the bottles diged in to my stomach, although i think it would be ok if i moved them to the high points.
I tried on the Montane Gecko 12+ and that was perfect for me, well apart from the price which was around £130, they said they have last years in the warehouse which is £65 and not to much different so they're getting that over from the warehouse for me when i'm down next Friday.
I did go out when i got back from Kendal, thought i'd give my nike Invincibles a run out instead of my asics noosa tri and toe and foot pain came around at 7 miles into an 8 mile run. Frustrating. I'm going to clean them up and chuck them on ebay as they've only done about 80 miles. Next time i go out i might try my Adios Pro 3 on a normal run, suspect they're stabler than the Invincibles as they have a good firm foam. If not i'll just keep the runs below 5 miles until i grab a pair of more supporting shoes. Bit of a pain as it limits my choice but i cannot risk injury over a fancy pair of shoes when ideally i need to be upping to around 50 mpw by feb next year.
Heat really makes a massive difference when running, can change your heart rate massively
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What are you doing in terms of diet?
The times I've lost weight are only when I've cut back on the calories, no matter how much running I was doing. Best thing I ever did was to buy some kitchen scales!