Playing for your country is a privilege
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Another thing. Ain't it great to see the country unite for international football. The flags, football dominating the TV channels. Kids playing footy in the streets. Even my workplace has given everyone the time off if they choose. To say club football is more important is big kick in the face really. Not from you guys of course. From the players, but of course they'll never say this weather it be true or not.
Just think in a few weeks it will all be over and I'll go see what the awesome boro are upto.
Just think in a few weeks it will all be over and I'll go see what the awesome boro are upto.
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Football dominates the tv channels because [we've] paid for it. The same happens every weekend on Sky. It's only once every four years so the tv companies use it to cash in.
It's also more likely to be on during work hours as well. Whereas domestic football's at night or on the weekend.
I don't think it's that sad per se, but it's just a sign that things have changed. As said above, it's due to the creation of the Premier League and Champion's league, who are both bigger cash cows over 4 years.
It's also more likely to be on during work hours as well. Whereas domestic football's at night or on the weekend.
I don't think it's that sad per se, but it's just a sign that things have changed. As said above, it's due to the creation of the Premier League and Champion's league, who are both bigger cash cows over 4 years.
I think the fact that we are in the middle of a recession and we dont have anything that unites us like we did in the past (wars,religions etc), means that we generally go over the top when it comes to stuff like this, I dont remember this much fanatiscism in tournaments before Euro 96.Its not an English thing either, its the same all over the world, in reality life is that crap that we hope we get some happiness from some other medium.
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well put it this way.
if im at risk of breaking a leg or being injured which could ruin my career, would you do it for free? im talking about any job not just football?
would you pressure wash the roof tiles on a large 5 bedroom house roof without any harnesses for free?
then why should a footballer (employee) be expected to do the same? players have had their legs broken and other injuries leading to developing further injuries in international matches.
for example, say you hurt your left knee (ACL), you then start to put more weight and pressure on your right knee, after a while something gives and usually ends up with you getting another completely different due to your first one. this is why some player are usually plagued by injury after injury, because 1 can lead to many more.
now would i put my £100,000 a week job at risk for nothing? or something im going to get hardly any benefit from? after weighing up all the pros and cons only then can you make an informed decision. i certainly wouldnt play for free if it meant putting my job at risk for nothing, the reason why i say this is because i injured my knee playing football and can no longer play because i risk my patella popping out. im going to get it fixed privately within the next year or two, nhs were a joke when i went to see them.
if im at risk of breaking a leg or being injured which could ruin my career, would you do it for free? im talking about any job not just football?
would you pressure wash the roof tiles on a large 5 bedroom house roof without any harnesses for free?
then why should a footballer (employee) be expected to do the same? players have had their legs broken and other injuries leading to developing further injuries in international matches.
for example, say you hurt your left knee (ACL), you then start to put more weight and pressure on your right knee, after a while something gives and usually ends up with you getting another completely different due to your first one. this is why some player are usually plagued by injury after injury, because 1 can lead to many more.
now would i put my £100,000 a week job at risk for nothing? or something im going to get hardly any benefit from? after weighing up all the pros and cons only then can you make an informed decision. i certainly wouldnt play for free if it meant putting my job at risk for nothing, the reason why i say this is because i injured my knee playing football and can no longer play because i risk my patella popping out. im going to get it fixed privately within the next year or two, nhs were a joke when i went to see them.
And how much is not much? Even if it's a fraction of their club salaries, I'm willing to bet it's still more per week than most people get in a year.
These footballers are all multimillionaires. They don't need the money anymore. The reason you become a pro footballer should be primarily because it's what you LOVE doing, and ask any kid on the street if they'd like to play for england, and I'd be very surprised if any would say no, or any would say " oh, but I might hurt myself
"U gotta drop this obsession with the money they are on.
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These footballers are all multimillionaires. They don't need the money anymore. The reason you become a pro footballer should be primarily because it's what you LOVE doing, and ask any kid on the street if they'd like to play for england, and I'd be very surprised if any would say no, or any would say " oh, but I might hurt myself
i seriously doubt glen johnson has made enough to retire on
Well I'm sorry to harp on about money, but when statements like this are made:
it's quite clear that money comes first, football comes second. England shouldn't even bother to enter for 2014.
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I was referring to them following their wage, not anything about the quantity involved. Don't misquote me.
And I'm saying that money and greed is driving these players, because if they REALLY cared about the game, then england would become their first priority.
I don't even know why I'm arguing this so much, I barely care about football.
But I just find it all so shallow I had to say something.So instead of players getting paid, FIFA should pocket all the money? Why is this only at an international level? I would play for a domestic club for a fraction of what they get paid because I love the sport. But of course it doesn't work like that. The revenues come in and they have to be allocated in some way.
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Why?
If I was Wayne Rooney and these were my two options for top priority:
1. Playing for United alongside team mates that I train and play with on a weekly basis under one of the best managers in the world, where I'm competing for the biggest competitions in Club football and am loved by the vast majority of fans.
or
2. Playing for England alongside team mates of wildly varying quality who I barely play alongside and having the media/fans heap ridiculous amounts of pressure on myself and the team every time we get to a major competition. Fans who will call for your head if you make a mistake and expect you to be able to win games by yourself.
Yeah I know which one would be my priority.
You make a very good point Shamikebab.
The press have heaped a stupid amount of the pressure on Rooney to be fair.
He is a world class striker, he isn't Maradona, he doesn't win games by himself, but he's certainly someone you want on the end of an attacking move.
The press have heaped a stupid amount of the pressure on Rooney to be fair.
He is a world class striker, he isn't Maradona, he doesn't win games by himself, but he's certainly someone you want on the end of an attacking move.
Yeah, god forbid these players should be challenged outside their comfort zone, eh? As far as I'm aware, the world cup is THE biggest competition in football.
You can play club football competitions every year. You only get a handful of shots at the world cup.
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I don't know what the problem is but the English players look like they just don't want to be out there. The French looked the same and many others do. The standard of play has shown this with only the lower teams playing their hearts out.
This is worrying sign for future world cups.
This is worrying sign for future world cups.
Yeah, god forbid these players should be challenged outside their comfort zone, eh? As far as I'm aware, the world cup is THE biggest competition in football.
You can play club football competitions every year. You only get a handful of shots at the world cup.
No, the biggest competition in World Football is the Premier League and Champions league. (Because Sky have the rights and promote their product as the best ever)
The World Cup is the competition that every player dreams of winning, the greats of the game have all won it.
I agree in part that the media circus that follows England is terrible and awful, England aren't as good as people think they are.
Regarding England players getting paid for their World Cup appearances: England footballers give World Cup match fees to charity. Doesn't say exactly how much, but that it'll raise over £1m, which isn't too shabby.