please help as i need your imput please !!

[ace1981]

im upgrading my system with what money ill get over the course of the month and my options are:

Thermalright V-1 Ultra VGA Heatsink -32.02
or
Zalman FC-ZV9 Fatal1ty Dual Heatpipe VGA Cooler (HS-025-ZA) Price:£32.84

Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-044-CO) £149.17 by allot of forum say this is the card to get!
or > Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-049-CO) £140

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-175-AM) £93.94
could overclock this so i dont mind the loss of x2 core or saying that the other option was>>
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3800BVBOX) (CP-134-AM) £105

also looking for an external extigy sound card

and a new psu dont know which one yet but am looking into this one >>
Enermax Noisetaker 535W EG565AX-VE(W) SFMA ATX2.0 SLI Compliant PSU (CA-023-EN)
my cm stacker case has a dual psu conncector i may use that with my other spare psu for time being

prices around for gfx i can do 155 if i sell my gfz card /then 100 for cpu when i sell my amd 64 for 20-30

so what your oppion am i getting the right stuff?

my pc specs are:

cm stacker:thumbs:
ASUS Extreme ATI RADEON x850 xt pe [560core/590mem o/c]
DFI lanparty ut Nf4 sli d:thumb:
2gb Ocz vx gold extreme pc 4000 at 254mhz 2.2.2.5 @ 3.3v:yikes: :bow:
Amd 64 3000+ @ 254fsb @1.475v = 2269ghz about 3500ghz [pr]
Ocz powerstream 420watt all adjustable rails
3x 120gb hitachi's ides 2 raided on a raid card and one 40gb boot drive
bigwater se water cooling
nec 16x dvd rewriter
using onbourd realtek sound
cambridge soundworks 5.1 dtt 2200
19" iiyama crt
logitech mx 700
cherry keybourd

 

[Foehammer2003]

Morning!

Well i have a X2 3800 and a Connect 3D X1800XT, both are excellent performers, have OC'd my 3800 to 2.4Ghz on stock volts easily and the X1800XT i have only had just over a day now but is the best bang for buck you can get for your money, grab one soon before they are all gone if i were you!

The GPU overclocks nicely too! Got mine an extra 100Mhz on the core and 60 on the mem atm, only just started though but think it will go some way higher yet

With the above i get 4800 Marks in 3D mark 06, not a bad result at all really

 

[ace1981]

Morning!

Well i have a X2 3800 and a Connect 3D X1800XT, both are excellent performers, have OC'd my 3800 to 2.4Ghz on stock volts easily and the X1800XT i have only had just over a day now but is the best bang for buck you can get for your money, grab one soon before they are all gone if i were you!

The GPU overclocks nicely too! Got mine an extra 100Mhz on the core and 60 on the mem atm, only just started though but think it will go some way higher yet

With the above i get 4800 Marks in 3D mark 06, not a bad result at all really

hi

4800 not bad at all considering i get a meesley 2250 odd

x2 3800 though has 512 cache compared to the others with 1mb what difference is there?

thanks for replying

and good morning to you aswell

 

[Insanity]

Duuuuuuuuude. Your signature is like 15 lines too big.

4 (or 5 - cant remember) lines max.

 

[locutus12]

hey there ace1981, first off you need to reduce your sig, max is 4 lines of text or a picture thats no more than 400X75 pixels.

secondly, i would get the x1800XT over the X1900GT, the XT is more powerful.

third, as for the cpu it depends on what you use your pc for, is it just going to be a games pc ? if so go for the A4000+ and clock it to death if you do a lot of encoding and want to do this in the background AND play games at the same time, then dual cores your answer.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Should be a nice step up, for a gaming rig.

Go for the X1800XT since youre getting a good PSU.

 

[ace1981]

Duuuuuuuuude. Your signature is like 15 lines too big.

4 (or 5 - cant remember) lines max.

is it really too big ill edit it if so

just notice a few other threads saying the same on me way now to edit

edit just done it hopefully it ok

 

[Insanity]

lol yes it is.

Read the FAQ... i'd happily link you too it if i knew where it was. (havent bothered to read it myself)

 

[ace1981]

hey there ace1981, first off you need to reduce your sig, max is 4 lines of text or a picture thats no more than 400X75 pixels.

secondly, i would get the x1800XT over the X1900GT, the XT is more powerful.

third, as for the cpu it depends on what you use your pc for, is it just going to be a games pc ? if so go for the A4000+ and clock it to death if you do a lot of encoding and want to do this in the background AND play games at the same time, then dual cores your answer.

i had a p4 2.6 hyperthreading didnt notice much when doing 2 thing at once sold that off then i bought this amd 64 3000+ and theres a big difference between the platforms especially in stability as all my p4's and intels have been crashy and my first amd cpu the 3000+ hasnt crashed since i bought it sorry there been one crash that was memery failure im staying amd from on

since then i havent missed multycores im bound get a dual core eventueally but i thing ill wait and get the excess stock of the last amd 64's 4000+

what could i expect from the o\c?

 

[Foehammer2003]

hi

4800 not bad at all considering i get a meesley 2250 odd

x2 3800 though has 512 cache compared to the others with 1mb what difference is there?

thanks for replying

and good morning to you aswell

The difference in cache I have been told equates to about 200Mhz in clock speed, so you would need to clock the chip say to 2.4 to match the speeds of the 4400+ @ 2.2Ghz.

2.4Ghz is easy to achieve imo, so save the extra cash and overclock the bugger!

 

[ace1981]

The difference in cache I have been told equates to about 200Mhz in clock speed, so you would need to clock the chip say to 2.4 to match the speeds of the 4400+ @ 2.2Ghz.

2.4Ghz is easy to achieve imo, so save the extra cash and overclock the bugger!

my amd 3000+ i will be selling on fleebay this week coming how much should i get for it ?£25-30?? go toward the cpu

is my gfx evalution corect £90 for x850 xt pe


that will help buy the x1800xt

didnt know you have a auction?

 

[locutus12]

3000+ should get you 40 to 50 on "fleebay" we must call it "fleebay" as its a competitor, youl have to remove the linky as well im afraid, tis in the rules

p.s. your sigs still 1 line too big lol,

dont worry, just fix them and youl get the hang of it as you go


mods, please dont give him a holiday, hes new and we all were at one point

 

[ace1981]

thanks for help me out so where this auction of overclockers? ive not seen it

 

[Foehammer2003]

thanks for help me out so where this auction of overclockers? ive not seen it

The first rule of MM is that there is no MM

You need 250 posts to gain access, check the FAQ for details. You cant spam 250 posts either that'll end up with your post count being removed apparently. Think your price for the X850pe is about right, and the CPU a bit higher than what you estimated.

Guessing you have definately settled on the X1800XT then? Good choice, clocking mine further today and it just doesn't seem to have a limit lol. And as soon as i do reach it im going to try my other Zalman cooler on it

 

[ace1981]

The first rule of MM is that there is no MM

You need 250 posts to gain access, check the FAQ for details. You cant spam 250 posts either that'll end up with your post count being removed apparently. Think your price for the X850pe is about right, and the CPU a bit higher than what you estimated.

Guessing you have definately settled on the X1800XT then? Good choice, clocking mine further today and it just doesn't seem to have a limit lol. And as soon as i do reach it im going to try my other Zalman cooler on it

oh righty so it only available to a select few
is it a good place to buy stuff?

yeah the x1800xt if they dont run out by next week i will get one
same with cpu!

 

[Mrchu_]

its a really fun friendly place,fulled with loads of goodies and a spectacle of .... oh yeah, the sacred rules of silence

 

[locutus12]

oh righty so it only available to a select few
is it a good place to buy stuff?

yeah the x1800xt if they dont run out by next week i will get one
same with cpu!

its available to all, but you need 250 posts and have to have been here for 3 months, its to stop people comming here just for MM.

MM is where a lot of silly rich people (bless them ) go and sell their 3 month old kit for 40% less than the retail price to very very poor (but clever ) people like me.

a few examples of what i got off MM...

2800XP £50 (was £95 retail)
X1800XT 512mb for £240 (it was £360 retail at the time)
Corsair 2X1 gig XMS £90 (was £155 at the time)
my current water cooling setup cost me £65 using MM and its great, easily £85 worth.
Antec super lanboy for £28, (they were £42 at the time)
akasa pax power 400 watt £25 (were £44 at the time)

opteron 146 £95 (was £148 at the time)

and 3 days ago i picked up an opteron 148 for £65 .... fantastic price!

so as you can see... MM is a rather useful perk of membership, just make sure its not your only reason for comming here,

 

[Foehammer2003]

so as you can see... MM is a rather useful perk of membership, just make sure its not your only reason for comming here,

Pah, merely a passing thought in anyones mind im sure, the richness of the intellect and persona of members is the the only reason for us all gathering like moths to a flame, in the dark of night

EDIT: actually locutus12, you got some pretty good deals there, have yet to buy on MM yet myself time obviously being a formality on that front