Please help-pulling hair out

Right, he's watercooled everthing in his PC and temps aren't a concern, just flow rates...
Ok then, thanks for clearing that up.

Did it occur to you that it might be useful information for other people and are you his official spokesman or something?
 
My computer room is quite warm around 25c-28c(wife likes it warm in there lol)
Temps idle are around :28c-34c
Temps while running prime 95(blend)53c

EdIT : I really appreciate the help guys

I did not mention the temps I was getting because as stated I didn't think it was relevant its not an issue I don't think anyhow( as I have a pretty big oc on my cpu)
 
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Thanks for the info :) I was just curious and I don't know why he has to get so arsey about merely asking.

I understand that you want a certain flow rate, but I do have to say that your temps are fine as it is, especially considering your ambients.
Anyway, best of luck sorting it out.
 
the thing that worries me is this is the first time I have myself bought and used a flow meter. if I hadn't of bought one of those I would never know.

How many other people are in the same position and do not even know ?
 
Who knows... I'd imagine that most people aren't bothered unless they see temps that don't correlate with their rad space etc.

If you hadn't checked the flow rate, would you have been concerned with your temps or would you have just got on and enjoyed your PC?
 
Enjoyed the pc I guess lol.

Tbh this all started because it was a beast to bleed. I had an air bubble on my cpu block that would not shift, no matter how I tried or attempted to get rid of it.

So the answer is even without a flow meter I knew there was something odd or different and wasn't quite right.

And with 2 pumps I have noticed its a lot easier to bleed still difficult but a lot better.
 
I couldn't care less what my flow rates are. My D5 is set to 1, and my temperatures are fine. Sometimes my system is easier to bleed, and sometimes it takes a bit more patience.

If your system was on air, you wouldn't have an anemometer in there.
 
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I couldn't care less what my flow rates are. My D5 is set to 1, and my temperatures are fine. Sometimes my system is easier to bleed, and sometimes it takes a bit more patience.

If your system was on air, you wouldn't have an anemometer in there.
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If it was on air I wouldn't of spent upwards of £800 lol. not to mention if it was on air half the mobo would be covered with a huge heatsink and fan hehe.

But I do know what your saying
 
if its a fully sealed system you could try running the pumps and rotating the tower to different positions, just encase you have an airlock.

After each position release the res plug slightly to release any air trapped in the system. The flow rate could be borked due to the pressure from the air.
 
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if its a fully sealed system you could try running the pumps and rotating the tower to different positions, just encase you have an airlock.

After each position release the res plug slightly to release any air trapped in the system. The flow rate could be borked due to the pressure from the air.
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Hi thanks for the tip.

I already done this. completely on the front/back ect ect laying flat tried it all.
 
if you've added a 2nd identical pump in series and it has resulted in 0 net gain to flow rate, then there is something really fundamentally wrong somewhere

have you checked the new pump is working correctly?
try turning off the new pump (don't worry, pumps represent very little restriction even when off so it won't affect idle temps), put it back on and turn off the old pump

one of the pumps being faulty is the only explanation I can think of that would result in absolutely no gain from running 2 pumps in series

your only other options are to try the 2 rads in parallel, or as you have 2 pumps, switch to 2 loops and put one rad in each loop (your raddage is overkill for what you have in the loop now anyway)
 
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if you've added a 2nd identical pump in series and it has resulted in 0 net gain to flow rate, then there is something really fundamentally wrong somewhere
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I have checked the loop several times to make sure I am using the correct in and out ports on cpu/pumps.

The only other thing I can think of is I need to change my loop order, but no idea to what.

have you checked the new pump is working correctly?
try turning off the new pump (don't worry, pumps represent very little restriction even when off so it won't affect idle temps), put it back on and turn off the old pump
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Now here is the weird thing. I have double checked to make sure the pumps are both working at full speed for now via the bios. and they are both working.
But..... now I have x2 pumps the flow is now what I had with just one pump. ie the flow is now split. I checked this as was sugested turning one off and checking the flow. and vice versa. so in effect its worse. so I dunno.

Really bad restriction of the loop or I have tons of air still in the loop ?

your only other options are to try the 2 rads in parallel, or as you have 2 pumps, switch to 2 loops and put one rad in each loop (your raddage is overkill for what you have in the loop now anyway)
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I have no idea what or how you put rads in parallel. and I know I have tons of raddage. but I do intend or rather did intend to add a wc graphics card.

To be honest im really fed up now, I spent a lot of money on this and I cannot even see what I have done wrong. wish I had nto of bothered tbh
 
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I have no idea what or how you put rads in parallel. and I know I have tons of raddage. but I do intend or rather did intend to add a wc graphics card.

To be honest im really fed up now, I spent a lot of money on this and I cannot even see what I have done wrong. wish I had nto of bothered tbh
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Rads in parallel cuts down on restriction thus increasing flow towards the water blocks, but there will be less flow into the rads themself, which is lesser cooling(or so i understood the benefits/negatives). Though by putting Rads in parallel you gain twice the coverage, so the slightly lesser cooling of rads in serie is neglible.

You put Rads in parallel by Letting the loop go from the Pump directly into both rads, then out of both rads towards the water block.
 
To put the rads in parallel you just need two Y splitters, the "in" to the Y can come from anywhere in the loop but the "outs" go to the "ins" of both rads, and you then use the other splitter as two "ins" from both rads and then the single "out" to rejoin the loop

BUT it definitely sounds like you have another issue in your loop causing you problems, as two pumps in series should definitely increase flow rate, even if only by a small amount.

Have you checked the directionality of all your other components to check you are using the right ins and outs on everything else - the blocks are the usual culprits but even rads can sometimes come with a host of connection points that make it easy to make a mistake

As I said previously, I would also try putting both pumps after the reservoir, instead of one before and one after which is how I think you said you had it before

Some photos of your setup might help

If you have trapped air you can usually hear it, your rig would sound like a fish tank bubbling away
 
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Hey thanks for the reply, there are pics in the watercooling case gallery.

its a bit hard moving both pumps as one is a pump/res combo.

I have defo checked pumps/cpu block for ins and outs and they are defo correct.

The only other thing is rads and the cross chiller I have not checked them,

Rads are :
Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis Radiator GTX 480
hardware labs black ice gtx xtream 360

Ocuk no longer sell the 480, wonder if there are probs with it ?
 
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