Please help! Replace dodgy windows 7 with vista with a view to upgrading to 7 again!

SiriusB said:
Without an OS that £200 is completely useless hardware.
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I don't agree with your way of looking at this. It's not £200 vs £165.

The OS is one component. So a fairer way of looking at this would be:

£165 (OS)
£60 GPU (2nd hand)
£60 AMD processor
£40 RAM (2nd hand)
£70 motherboard


Now, which components cost the most to produce? Probably the CPU/GPU. Millions spent on R&D alone.

Yet MS have a (relatively) cheap to produce component and they want to charge more for it than any other component in my machine?
 
The difference is hardware lasts 10 minutes before the latest and greatest is released. If hardware manufacturers didn't drop their prices on older gear it would never sell.

Windows is continually updated - for free - for many, many years. XP is 10 years old and it is still receiving support.

I can see we aren't going to agree on this, so we should probably leave it there! :p
 
Don't mean to hijack the thread but I just wanted to ask a few questions and didn't see the point in making a new one.

I want to get W7 and I am eligible for the student discount for the Pro Upgrade version. I know you can use work arounds to get it clean installed but I wanted to check that it's definitely possible for me. I have genuine Vista Home Premium 32bit currently and would like W7 64bit Pro, will that work fine with the clean install trick? I don't want to spend £40 to try and save £40 only to end up with a frisbee.

Thanks.
 
The "trick" is only to clean install on a blank hard disk (or disk without windows).

You can clean install without using any "trick" if there is already a qualifying Windows OS on the drive. In that case, you run the installer, and format the drive from within the installer (you can also make/delete partitions).

The reason behind this is that the installer looks for a qualifying Windows OS very early in the installation process, before you get to choose how and where you'll install it.

Once again, the "trick" is only needed when installing the upgrade version to a blank hdd.
 
FoxEye said:
The "trick" is only to clean install on a blank hard disk (or disk without windows).

You can clean install without using any "trick" if there is already a qualifying Windows OS on the drive. In that case, you run the installer, and format the drive from within the installer (you can also make/delete partitions).

The reason behind this is that the installer looks for a qualifying Windows OS very early in the installation process, before you get to choose how and where you'll install it.

Once again, the "trick" is only needed when installing the upgrade version to a blank hdd.
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By qualifying OS do you mean the ones they specifically say you need to have in order to use the upgrade? eg. Vista Pro 64bit in order to use a W7 Pro 64
 
A cynic, a person who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing, Oscar Wilde.

I smell cynics, read the T and C.

andy.
 
You could look at auctions for Windows 7 Ultimate retail edition, so no need to play around with upgrades and licences.

Probably asking for trouble as they seem too cheap to be genuine going by some of the buy now prices, or that's me just being suspicious.
 
Wow, loads of excellent posts on this since I last checked hehe,
I respect and understand exactly where all you 'pay for it' guys are coming from, and the same to the 'get away with it if you can' guys, but i have to say solely because of my monetary situation I am still the latter.

I have one question for you, i need to know, with regards to my installing this OEM version of Vista on a second PC whilst the first one is still running, if they both run at the same time and connect to the net and update etc does anything happen? or do both PCs with the same OEM OS run just fine, without a hint as to them running off the same product key?
And also, if i do cheat and install this OEM Vista on my second PC, will I be able to use the windows 7 upgrade version? Do upgrades install ok on OEM versions, and could it 'know' that the OEM has been used on 2 different PCs?
Putting the whole legality and copyright stuff aside, do you know if it will technically work or not?

My friend works in a PC factory of some sort so he is looking into getting me 64bit 7 Pro full retail version for a bit of discount, if he can i will go for that, im sure that will please you 'pay for it guys' :) understandably.
Cheers
 
My first OS was MSDos 5, I bought windows 3.1, I bought windows 95 OEM, I upgraded to windows 98SE, I bought windows XP Professional full retail, I have now bought Windows 7 ultimate full retail. This is over 20 years, spread over that time, it is not a huge amount of money.

andy
 
nkata said:
My first OS was MSDos 5, I bought windows 3.1, I bought windows 95 OEM, I upgraded to windows 98SE, I bought windows XP Professional full retail, I have now bought Windows 7 ultimate full retail. This is over 20 years, spread over that time, it is not a huge amount of money.

andy
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You are absolutely right mate, I completely agree, however I simply don't have £120 or £160 or whatever it is for the retail version.

I am doing my motorcycle theory test and then the cost of practical on top, then fixing up my other bikes in the garden atm to sell and buy a new one to replace those 3, playing gigs and music teaching covers it for now but forking out all that cash for an OS is at the bottom of my to do list.
 
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