Plumbers of OcUK is this hard?

Stretch said:
You might not need gas safety, part p etc. but if you don't and you want it to meet building regs then you need the work signed off by someone qualified. This can often cost the same as getting he work done by a qualified person in the first place.
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The guy owns his house and wishes to make a repair to an existing system. He does not need to have any involvement with building regs :p
 
Jez said:
The guy owns his house and wishes to make a repair to an existing system. He does not need to have any involvement with building regs :p
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I'm afraid owning his own home means very little. He may not need to notify building control, but any changes to electrical or gas systems in the home must meet building regs.

I wasn't referring to the op case in particular. In his case a like for like replacent is unlikely to break building regs or be notices that it wasn't undertaken by someone qualified.
 
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Stretch said:
I'm afraid owning his own home means very little. He may not need to notify building control, but any changes to electrical or gas systems in the home must meet building regs.

I wasn't referring to the op case in particular. In his case a like for like replacent is unlikely to break building regs or be notices that it wasn't undertaken by someone qualified.
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You don't have to be qualified to meet building regs. That's exactly what we are getting at.
 
Lopéz said:
You don't have to be qualified to meet building regs. That's exactly what we are getting at.
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The problem comes when you need to prove the work meets building regs i.e. you want to sell. For instance anything but the most minor electrical changes will require a part p certificate. Gas supply and boiler installs are notifiable work.

As I said, you don't need the qualifications, but DIY work could be a problem down the line.
 
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To clarify a few things:

You do not need to be gas safe registered to work on your gas appliances but you do need to be "competent". In this case, the definition of competent is by having the relevant qualifications and knowledge. Therefore, without having your acs gas qualifications, you legally cannot touch a gas appliance in your home or anyone's home for that matter.

A builder i know could have killed his whole family by letting a "mate" change a gas valve in his boiler. Had nothing to do with the gas valve. He'd built an extension on his house and blocked up the vents that supplied his boiler with air for combustion. After 20 minutes the boiler would shut down and the pilot light would go out. His "mate" charged him £150 to change a part that worked perfectly. There was signs of products of combustion leaking from the boiler within the cupboard.

Carbon Monoxide is more dangerous than gas. You can't smell it. It attacks the nervous system so you won't feel it. If there's enough of it you'll go to sleep and won't wake up again. Simples. Something for all those confident engineers in fields other than gas to think about. If i had a £1 for every time i've heard of someone changing the fan in a boiler. The fan either pushes or pulls the products of combustion out of the boiler.

We spend thousands on training for good reason. We have peoples lives in our hands. If we get it wrong and someone dies, we're charged with manslaughter and off to prison we go.
 
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Stretch said:
The problem comes when you need to prove the work meets building regs i.e. you want to sell. For instance anything but the most minor electrical changes will require a part p certificate. Gas supply and boiler installs are notifiable work.

As I said, you don't need the qualifications, but DIY work could be a problem down the line.
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We're not talking about a new install though, we're talking about a repair :-)

justalex81 said:
To clarify a few things:

You do not need to be gas safe registered to work on your gas appliances but you do need to be "competent". In this case, the definition of competent is by having the relevant qualifications and knowledge. Therefore, without having your acs gas qualifications, you legally cannot touch a gas appliance in your home or anyone's home for that matter.
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Nonsense.

A qualification is proof of competency yes, I grant you, but the absence of a qualification does not prove you aren't competent.
 
Stretch said:
The problem comes when you need to prove the work meets building regs i.e. you want to sell. For instance anything but the most minor electrical changes will require a part p certificate. Gas supply and boiler installs are notifiable work.

As I said, you don't need the qualifications, but DIY work could be a problem down the line.
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I do not mean to sound rude, but it doesn't sound as if you have much experience in this subject. Therefore you should refrain from giving advice.

Edit: i realise that does sound rude, its not meant to be(!) its just that misinformation is confusing the OP's issue. :)
 
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I've assumed that the OP's problem is with a zone valve which is probably in an airing cupboard along with a hot water cylinder. If so, then what has this got to do with gas regulations or Part P of building regs :confused:?
 
Please do not fall for the British gas line as "there muck in the system" it needs a flush and a filter fitting!

Utter rubbish they have been robbing people for years on that one!
 
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