Plural's

If you can understand what someone is trying to convey, or at least get the sentiment, then the grammar and syntax (they normally go hand in hand when people are going all Oxbridge over some non major thing) is secondary.

Perhaps so, but to see, “I should have took the dog’s for a walk”, as opposed to
“I should have taken the dogs for a walk” grates a bit on me.
FWIW, I didn’t go near Oxbridge, the pinnacle of my education was passing the 13 plus, and going to a grammar school, where I was taught regular english, but grammar wasn’t rammed down my throat.

Apostrophe abuse should be an actual crime.

Agreed.

Fully agree. The number of people that can't write properly is too damn high. Apostrophes are really easy to understand.

When it comes to nouns, they are possessive.

It's is a conjunction. Its is possessive.

It’s not difficult, is it?

it should be a ban for 24 hrs

Insufficient, a month at least, after maybe two warnings.

Moose.
Meese.
Mooses.

Reminds me of Mr. Jinks, the cat who said of mice Pixie and Dixie, “I hate those meeces to pieces!”
 
There is a guy with a boat who lives around the corner from my partners house. On it he has the slogan "Boats and Hoe's".

Makes me furious every time I drive past it. Not just because of the incorrect apostrophe, although that is the major annoyance, but also because what a pathetic slogan to put on your boat!
 
There is a guy with a boat who lives around the corner from my partners house. On it he has the slogan "Boats and Hoe's".

Makes me furious every time I drive past it. Not just because of the incorrect apostrophe, although that is the major annoyance, but also because what a pathetic slogan to put on your boat!
 
Oh, there is also a barbers in my town called "Abs's". Not sure if it is right or not, but it looks odd.

Also a reptile shop in Gateshead (closed down now), which I kid you not, had the sign "Abis's Exotics & Pets". Shudder.
 
If you can understand where someone is trying to drive, then the rules of the road are secondary...
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.

In your example there are genuine but vanishingly small consequences (note that I did not say straw man or THINGS I MADE UP in that sentence - praise be to the English system!) If one of us gets things dramatically wrong while in charge of a car then bad things could potentially happen; see 'Risks and how life is full of them' in chapter 23 for further reading. If I spell a worrd wrong, like I just did, or apply an unorthodox or widely frowned upon clause structure, like I also did and am doing even as you read these words, then it's possible but probably unlikely that someone will come to harm by way of a motor vehicle.

Do you see how words and their construct can have both meaning and implicit foundations even though one is important and the other less so?
 
What's the general view of people inserting an apostrophe into plurals of DVD'S, CD's and the like?

I'm on the fence on that one.

Putting 's after an acronym is grammatically acceptable. e.g. NATO's member countries.

The one that upsets me more than 's on plurals is "it's". It couldn't be easier. There is no 's in hi's and there's no 's in its except when it is a conjunction of either "it is" or "it has".
 
Yeah possession is very different in that context where NATO's member countries is the only correct way to write it. What can a DVD or CD posses? Nothing, that's what!

There are many car garages down these parts that do "MOT's" :D I want to burst in there sometimes and shout "MOT's WHAT???" but I'm not 12 :p

Your point being understood trumps the grammatical rules you've employed, generally speaking.

Accepting incorrect use of English is ultimately leading to the dumbing down of people and it's all too clear these days, especially when it's stuff posted publicly because people will think it is right/accepted and use it themselves further leading to the dumbing down of society.

If it's an obvious typo or autocorrect etc then it is pretty clear, but when it's used fully throughout a whole bit of writing, you know that the person skipped GCSE English classes.
 
Yeah possession is very different in that context where NATO's member countries is the only correct way to write it. What can a DVD or CD posses? Nothing, that's what!

There are many car garages down these parts that do "MOT's" :D I want to burst in there sometimes and shout "MOT's WHAT???" but I'm not 12 :p



Accepting incorrect use of English is ultimately leading to the dumbing down of people and it's all too clear these days, especially when it's stuff posted publicly because people will think it is right/accepted and use it themselves further leading to the dumbing down of society.

If it's an obvious typo or autocorrect etc then it is pretty clear, but when it's used fully throughout a whole bit of writing, you know that the person skipped GCSE English classes.

There is a local hairdresser called "Boy's to men", which is just annoying.
 
I want to burst in there sometimes and shout "MOT's WHAT???" but I'm not 12 :p

DO IT.

If it's an obvious typo or autocorrect etc then it is pretty clear, but when it's used fully throughout a whole bit of writing, you know that the person skipped GCSE English classes.

One of my favourite things is when I correct someone on a spelling or grammatical mistake that they've made repeatedly and they blame it on a typo. I usually don't bother these days though because most people don't give a ****, and if they did then they probably wouldn't have made the mistake in the first place.
 
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Accepting incorrect use of English is ultimately leading to the dumbing down of people and it's all too clear these days, especially when it's stuff posted publicly because people will think it is right/accepted and use it themselves further leading to the dumbing down of society.

If it's an obvious typo or autocorrect etc then it is pretty clear, but when it's used fully throughout a whole bit of writing, you know that the person skipped GCSE English classes.
I think if you took a step back you'd find that you're less concerned about the impact of the communication (i.e. did it work, make sense, am I being mostly understood?) and more concerned with the rules or process which the communcation worked under. You'll note that I've been at pains not to push a binary position here because while I mostly agree with you that grammar and syntax are very good rules to understand and follow, they are less important than what it is you are trying to say. It's a sliding scale of priorities. I genuinely get your point though.
 
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