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rjk · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:06

hi guys

just started folding today

had a full rundown of what to do to get going at work

i have manged to get the client and monitor up and running

seems i am only folding very small amounts - ppd is tiny

was wondering if anyone can point out what i have doen wrong and how to rectify it?

thanks

rjk

cyclo · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:26

You should use the SMP client if you aren't already, or run linux under vmware and get even more PPD.

http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/vm.html

edit: nvm you're alredy using SMP.. no idea then, I don't fold anymore

Biffa · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:27

vmware bigadv folding has gone to pot lately you get as good results on A3 windows SMP

rjk check out this thread from a few days ago, exactly same sitation: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18155136

Oh and welcome to the team!

Happy · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:33

Welcome to the team

Quite a good guide here:-

Mr. Orange said:
Mr. Orange's Folding@home SMP Guide
also known as:
The Orange
mclarenvj

1. Play some good music. In my guide, I feature I Write Sins Not Tragedies - Panic! at the Disco

2. Download the latest Folding@home SMP Client. available here:
Direct Link: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.29beta-win32-SMP-mpich.exe
Source Page:
Folding@home - High Performance Clients

and then run the program as an administrator...

Mr. Orange said:
3. Run the install, Make sure you install into a directory such as 'C:\FAHSMP'. Not a directory that features spaces(Program Files) and click next for everything.. apart from of course finish at the end

Mr. Orange said:
4. Now If you go to 'C:\FAHSMP', you will see...

5. Right, now go to start, and type in 'cmd'

6. type in

Code:

cd C:\FAHSMP

and press enter

7. type in

Code:

install

and press enter

Mine will be different to yours, as I already had MPICH2 installed.. sorry

You're instantly greeted with the config wizard.

Press Enter (Because it already has your computer name and user name. This needs to be correct)

8. Fill in your password twice.. (If none, just press enter.)

9. Type in

Code:

[email protected] -configonly

and press enter..

10. Fill everything as I have done... (Blank spaces are just where I pressed enter.

Mr. Orange said:
Running Your SMP Client from a Batch File

to create a batch file.

1. Go to Start and type 'notepad' and press enter...

2. now copy and paste this.

Code:

@ECHO OFF ECHO Changing Directory cd C:\FAHSMP ECHO Starting Folding@home SMP [email protected] -smp -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9

and then set:
File name: [email protected]
Save as type: All Files

then click save.

3. Now, run the Batch file

dekez · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:43

Welcome to the team

Great guide that Happy, I think follow that and you'll be fine, my quick guess would be no -smp flag.

Happy · 1 Jul 2010 at 21:46

That would be first my first thought aswell.

miniyazz · 1 Jul 2010 at 23:53

Welcome to the team.

That screenie looks productive.. i7 980X?

Stan_Lite · 2 Jul 2010 at 05:27

dekez said:
Welcome to the team

Great guide that Happy, I think follow that and you'll be fine, my quick guess would be no -smp flag.

Happy said:
That would be first my first thought aswell.

That's almost certainly what it is. P4605 is an Amber core.

You need to run the client with the -smp flag to get the big scoring SMP units.

Happy · 2 Jul 2010 at 07:29

miniyazz said:
Welcome to the team.

That screenie looks productive.. i7 980X?

You should see what he has been playing with at work :eek:

rjkoneill said:
480s are fine on air. I have had SLI 480s in this today and had no issues whatsoever

the 480 sli had no significant heat increase over the 5970 i tested with this morning.

breaking news: high end graphics cards run hot!

in other more exciting news...
heres some crunching

miniyazz · 2 Jul 2010 at 07:48

Berserker · 2 Jul 2010 at 08:39

Holy mother of :eek:

- that's a lot of cores! Want! :eek:

rjk · 2 Jul 2010 at 08:42

miniyazz said:
Welcome to the team.

That screenie looks productive.. i7 980X?

not productive yet, not until i get the -smp flag sorted later
its not a 980x but a very early sample gulftown. essentially a 980x but with a stock speed of 3GHz. problem is that i took the chip to 5ghz and it degraded very quickly. so 3.4 is about all i can get out of it at the moment. currently the chip is undervolted and is stable under load at 3.GHz using 1.0v

looking at replacing it with a low TDP Xeon chip.
most likely an X5850 or something similar

Happy said:
You should see what he has been playing with at work

the guy who set it up on the SR2 folds for a different team [was folding before he started at OcUK]. i am sure that i can switch the client over to my username for a day

thanks for the welcomes guys

turns out i did forget the -smp flag

stumbling at the first hurdle!

Biffa · 2 Jul 2010 at 08:51

He works for OcUK but doesn't crunch for the worlds greatest team!???

Sackable offence I reckon :eek:

Happy · 2 Jul 2010 at 08:59

Who's the guy on the OCUK that's the folding Guru, can they be persuaded to switch to us?

rjk · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:05

Biffa said:
Sackable offence I reckon

my thoughts exactly. he is walking a thin line!

Happy said:
Who's the guy on the OCUK that's the folding Guru, can they be persuaded to switch to us?

he doesnt post on here
the team he folds for are glitchpc

dekez · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:08

Berserker said:
Holy mother of - that's a lot of cores! Want!

That pretty much sums up my thoughts!

Biffa · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:10

So rj, can you post a screeny with the Gulftown you had before running -SMP? Would be interested in seeing the PPD in HFM.NET

Those scores just seem crazy fast, considering the Gulftowns are hex core with Hyperthreading, effectively it should do 3 x what an i7 quad can do. (24 threads vs 8 threads) and a 4Ghz i7 is only getting around 13-14K PPD. So 39-42K PPD on -smp seems reasonable. Maybe the extra cache is helping things along, but HT scaling isn't ususally linear.

Only other thing it could be is bonus being calculated high because return is so fast.

Other interesting stuffs:

-bigadv GRO-A3 on a windows machine in the first screenies? Not seen that before.. gimme gimme!

(It looks like a windows machine, linux boxes don't normally use c:\users\Administrator\Desktop\fah as their path)

The tpf for the -smp folder with the lower ppd is roughly half what I get on an i7 so it must be pulling big returns on bonus is all I can think to get such high ppd! :cool:

rjk · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:38

Biffa, not quite following you mate

do you mean a screenshot of my gulftown or from the twin westmere chips running in the SR2 at work?

Biffa · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:45

Your Gulftown

Well the first screenshot was without -SMP just interested on a single gulftown performance with the correct flags this time

Or is it out of the machine after your 5Ghz misshap? :eek:

rjk · 2 Jul 2010 at 09:51

the 5ghz misshap happened before NDA was up so i couldnt compare voltages to anyone else and knew practically nothing about safe operating volts on 32nm chips.
the only people who had gulftowns at the time were the likes of Xs and Benchtec who were putting silly volts through them.
mine only went to 1.4v and that stopped it clocking [shame really as it did 4.5GHz all day long at 1.325v].
we had a retail ES at work that went to 4.8GHz @ 1.375v and that one is dead completely now

my chip will still do the same stock speeds as a retail 980X.

will throw up some screens for you when i have got it folding properly under -smp.

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