points on license

gazzaa · 30 Jul 2006 at 19:59

my cousin has 8 points on his license and he only has a provisional but he is doing his lessons what will happen when he passes his test will he lose it or what because im not sure.

Gilly · 30 Jul 2006 at 20:03

What?

The_Dark_Side · 30 Jul 2006 at 20:05

gazzaa said:
my cousin has 8 points on his license and he only has a provisional but he is doing his lessons what will happen when he passes his test will he lose it or what because im not sure.

boy, he's going to be a welcome addition to our roads isn't he.

gazzaa · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:03

Gilly said:
What?

i mean will those 8 points carry over to his full license and because hes got more than 6 points he'll lose it immediately

JRS · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:04

gazzaa said:
my cousin has 8 points on his license and he only has a provisional but he is doing his lessons what will happen when he passes his test will he lose it or what because im not sure.

How?! Who the hell has been teaching the silly sod if he's managed that?

DannyDan · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:06

gazzaa said:
i mean will those 8 points carry over to his full license and because hes got more than 6 points he'll lose it immediately

IIRC, yes, he'll lose it straight away.

agw_01 · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:06

To echo what everyone else has said...

WTF! He has 8 points on a provisional licence?

I'd tell him not even to try and attempt his driving test. There's no way anyone is going to let him drive after he's managed to clock those points up!

Glaucus · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:06

JRS said:
How?! Who the hell has been teaching the silly sod if he's managed that?

At a guess he got done for joy riding or drink driving before he even had a license...

Over 6points he'll lose his license, so why spend the money learning. Wait till the points come off.

gazzaa · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:09

agw_01 said:
To echo what everyone else has said...

WTF! He has 8 points on a provisional licence?

I'd tell him not even to try and attempt his driving test. There's no way anyone is going to let him drive after he's managed to clock those points up!

think he got caught driving with no insurance,tax in a car that was stolen im not to sure though i never asked

Dreadi · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:12

either way, if he gets his license he'll lose it sooner then the instuctor can tell him he's passed

[TW]Fox · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:13

But will he, though? I'm not so sure he will automatically lose it.

JRS · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:14

gazzaa said:
think he got caught driving with no insurance,tax in a car that was stolen im not to sure though i never asked

In which case, he might as well get used to what laughably passes as public transport in this country, 'cause he won't be driving legally for a while.

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[TW]Fox said:
But will he, though? I'm not so sure he will automatically lose it.

Actually, you may be right. Knowing the screwed up system we have here, he may keep the license but lose it if he gets in any more trouble. Not sure how it works when you have points before your actual full license.

Vertigo · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:17

Of course he's not going to lose his license the moment he passes, do you really think they'd have such a stupid system in place?

If you read the DVLA website, this sentence is crucial:

Valid penalty points incurred prior to passing the first test are taken into account if the driver commits a penalty point offence during the probationary period.

This infers that the existing points will only be taken into account if he commits a further offence during the penalty period. Basically if he gets even a single additional point during his first two years he'll lose his license but if he stays clean for those two years he'll be fine.

JRS · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:18

Vertigo1 said:
Of course he's not going to lose his license the moment he passes, do you really think they'd have such a stupid system in place?

I wouldn't have been at all surprised actually....

BenST · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:21

But surely he'll still have to declare these convictions to his insurance company, if so I would love to hear what his quote would be!

agw_01 · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:21

Great, so Big Kev starts nicking cars at 12. Gets arrested for joyriding, driving without insurance, driving while drunk etc etc etc...

He turns 17, he's had every warning under the sun, he has 25 points on his 'license'

He takes his driving test and passes, and is allowed on the road like every other hard working person.

Fantastic.

Vertigo · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:25

splitz said:
But surely he'll still have to declare these convictions to his insurance company, if so I would love to hear what his quote would be!

Oh yeah with any luck his insurance will be so stratospheric that it'll stop him driving. More likely is that he'll just drive without insurance tbh

If it were up to me then you'd not be able to take a driving test with any points on your license and would have to wait for them to expire first.

gazzaa · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:27

splitz said:
But surely he'll still have to declare these convictions to his insurance company, if so I would love to hear what his quote would be!

i just did a quote for him on car i insured for £300 and it says £4180 so he's had it anyway.

Gilly · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:32

agw_01 said:
Great, so Big Kev starts nicking cars at 12. Gets arrested for joyriding, driving without insurance, driving while drunk etc etc etc...

He turns 17, he's had every warning under the sun, he has 25 points on his 'license'

He takes his driving test and passes, and is allowed on the road like every other hard working person.

Fantastic.

It'd be ******* stupid to have it any other way.

SgtTupac · 30 Jul 2006 at 21:40

Thats nothing, i know someone who actually had an extra part to his licence because of all the points lol. Filled up the entire page of his paper counterpart lol!