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I find it unbelievably unlikely that the police would be walking the streets with drugs on them so they could plant them on a random innocent.
What for?!
There's no extra money or kudos in making an arrest, the risk of losing your income and pension and liberty for doing something highly illegal and stupid would far outweigh any positive you could name.
Beyond that, why would they physically plant drugs on somebody?
Surely you'd simply make the arrest and upon return to the station claim the drugs were seized from the suspect?!

Just doesn't make any sense.
 
Chris [BEANS];21490944 said:
I find it unbelievably unlikely that the police would be walking the streets with drugs on them so they could plant them on a random innocent.
What for?!
There's no extra money or kudos in making an arrest, the risk of losing your income and pension and liberty for doing something highly illegal and stupid would far outweigh any positive you could name.
Beyond that, why would they physically plant drugs on somebody?
Surely you'd simply make the arrest and upon return to the station claim the drugs were seized from the suspect?!<<<<<YES THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD DO AFTER PLANTING THEM ON YOU AND LAUGHING AT YOU AND YOUR MATES!

Just doesn't make any sense.
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:rolleyes: are you a police officer or something?lol

As strange as it sounds everything i've said is the truth and probobly shouldnt even have said what i know here..........99.9% of them just do their job no doubt about it but there IS a criminal element within the force.
 
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Why the :rolleyes:??? It's a fair point! If you wanted to 'fit someone up' that'd be the way to do it. The charade of planting something on somebody just to immediately 'seize' it again?
And to do it in front of people too?!

As I say, none of it makes sense.

Irrational paranoia has this thread completely broken.
I give up trying to introduce sense and rationality, I'm off to bed.
 
Moley said:
If you want to annoy them answer like this:

"I do not understand the significance of those words and wish to exercise my right to refer to a copy of PACE - The Police and Criminal Evidence Act of 1984"

The cannot complete the arrest procedure until you have had the chance to read the book - it's pretty thick and might take you a few hours. :D
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Doesn't work when they have reason to believe your guilty of something. The law does not work in our favour and never has.
 
Chris [BEANS];21490982 said:
Why the :rolleyes:??? It's a fair point! If you wanted to 'fit someone up' that'd be the way to do it. The charade of planting something on somebody just to immediately 'seize' it again?
And to do it in front of people too?!

As I say, none of it makes sense.

Irrational paranoia has this thread completely broken.
I give up trying to introduce sense and rationality, I'm off to bed.
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I rolled my eyes because i know what i know and thats it tbh.Does it have to make sense? Police officers are just people too and can make stupid choices. Theres a well known officer around here who is not allowed to work unsupervised anymore because of his abuse of young adults and kids. I know some of his victims and he went around for years being a bully and physicly assualting people before anything was done about it. a lot of people just submit and think because its an officer that nothing will be done if they complain and just want it all over with as quick as possable. Who are they gonna beleive in court? A group of teenagers who were hanging around and "up to no good" or 4 older police officers in a court of law?

I got caught with a LARGE quantity of a substance once too(the green stinky stuff),and they just let me go AND gave it back to me!!!!!!:eek: I wont go into the details but they knew what i was up to. if this doesnt prove that they just do whatever the hell they want i dont know what does:rolleyes:

Everybody on heres gonna think im either mad or some kinda criminal now,but oh well,i just tell it like it is.

Oh the stories i could to tell,i should write a movie:D

Have a nice sleep and enjoy living in that little bubble of yours!
 
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Taken from 'The Arrest' from Conflict's album The Ungovernable Force*:

If you take part in direct action or the police don't like the look of you; you are likely to get arrested
Here's some things to and not to do
You don't have to say anything, nothing, but it is advisable (but still your choice)
to give your name, address and date of birth, and then say nothing else
If you don't give them this you'll find they will only hold you for longer
While they establish your identity, but if you have been previously convicted
Then don't give your date of birth, for you are on their computers in birth order
Then you are not obliged to answer any further questions at all
Most people that are caught are sussed out by their own evidence
The police are cunning but thick, don't hand it to them on a plate
You don't have to give your fingerprints, make them apply for a warrant
This sometimes is refused - especially if the evidence is flimsy
Never let them take your photograph this is only compulsory after
You have received a prison sentence, so don't let them tell you different
You can demand suitable food; you might not get it "keep on asking"
You are entitled to make phone calls but the ******** won't let you
Remember the arresting officer's number, or any scum that treat you badly
Make a legal complaint afterwards. Look bored - but stay polite
When they question say "no comment", don't admit to any weakness
They are ******** trained by ********
To protect, detect, and prevent, us and our like from questioning
Let alone, threaten the power that they cherish
Whatever you go through in a police cell is nothing compared to the suffering inflicted by Governments
The state destroys, tortures and murders, we must stop them, using force if necessary
Remember that and good luck

*Which was released in 1986 so this is more a fond look back at the rights you used to have, rather than useful advice concerning current legislation. :)

Oh, and this doesn't necessarily represent MY opinions either; I'm all grown up now, and everything.
 
Dimple said:
No it isn't and I'd like to know the answer.

So if I was picked up with no ID and refused to say anything and refused to give fingerprints or DNA samples what would eventually happen?
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I dont know why but i always thought they were allowed to just keep you locked up untill you can actualy prove who you are no matter how long that takes? I mean they could have some unsolved cases like murders etc and have evidence stored away for future use(or not),and you could be that guy theoreticly and the fact your not saying anything is suspicious in itself and would warrant further investigation and looking into no matter how long it takes. And you cant refuse to give fingerprints/DNA because they' would just manhandle you with as many officers as it takes and get it by force,you have no rights as far as thats concerned.Maybe somebody who actualy know the answer will come here and settle it,surely there must be a lawyer on OCuK?lol
 
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If they have reason to believe you committed a crime and you refuse to provide details of who you are then you have broken the law. Once your in custody long enough you will disclose your identity eventually or Mr PC Plod will poke your eyes out. FACT.
 
IIRC you need to confirm your name and address when being questioned, but other than that you dont have to say a work. I'm sure it will be in the PACE act?
 
A police officer can stop and question you in the street or a park or other outside place if you are suspected of committing an offence or the officer believes that you have witnessed a possible offence.
If you are stopped and questioned, you are expected to be co-operative. You will be asked to give your name and address to the officer. If you give a false name and address you are committing an offence.
If you refuse to provide your name and address after you have been told by the police what you are suspected of doing it is an offence you could be charged with.
If you refuse to provide your name and address when you have witnessed an offence being committed you can be charged for refusing to provide this information.
If the police suspect you of committing an offence they may ask you for an explanation of your behaviour. You have the right to refuse to give an explanation.
Once you have given the police your name and address it is up to them to decide whether they want to ask more questions. If they don’t then you should be allowed to go. If they do want to ask you more questions and they suspect you of having committed a crime they can:-
ask you to attend voluntarily at the police station to help with enquiries; or
detain you for questioning for up to 24 hours; or
arrest you for allegedly committing an offence.
If the police suspect you of being a witness to a crime they can invite you to attend the police station to help with enquiries but you are not obliged to do so and cannot be detained at the police station.
If you have been questioned by the police, either as a suspect or a witness, the police should make clear before you are released or leave the police station what further action, if any, will be taken, for example, whether you have been charged and will be reported to the Procurator Fiscal or whether you have been eliminated from the enquiry.
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Taken from here: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotl...tem_index_scotland/police_powers_scotland.htm
 
You can sit in silence and with eyes shut and fingers in your ears if you want.

An inference can be drawn from silence but you can't be charged with silence alone unless RIPA legislation is being investigated.

As for DNA and fingerprints, they can be taken by force if required.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
You can sit in silence and with eyes shut and fingers in your ears if you want.

An inference can be drawn from silence but you can't be charged with silence alone unless RIPA legislation is being investigated.

As for DNA and fingerprints, they can be taken by force if required.
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Indeed, most of the time we can find out your identity other ways, but it just is much more time consuming and means you would be in a cell for longer.

Malevolence said:
I've often wondered this. After they've read your rights to you they always say something along the lines of "Do you understand these rights?". What happens if you say 'no'?
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We explain it in more simple terms. This is often the case if you are in the unfortunate position of arresting children.

Moley said:
If you want to annoy them answer like this:

"I do not understand the significance of those words and wish to exercise my right to refer to a copy of PACE - The Police and Criminal Evidence Act of 1984"

The cannot complete the arrest procedure until you have had the chance to read the book - it's pretty thick and might take you a few hours. :D
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Not true, you will be able to read the copy of PACE in the cell though.
 
Moses said:
It's also an offence to refuse to provide your name and address, I think (although I don't know how they'd go about ascertaining your identity).
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It's only an offence in specific circumstances, but if you commit any offence you can be arrested to ascertain your identity.
 
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