Police Stop Fingerprint..

Von Smallhausen said:
Ok then.

Lets say that you are mistaken for someone else who is on the fingerprint database and that person is wanted on PNC for, say, drugs offences and you are arrested. The person who is wanted and is on the fingerprint database will also be on the DNA database so a sample from you will not match that of his. The odds of having identical DNA are almost impossible.

The situation I give though is highly unlikely to happen.
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Still, the burden of justification is on the police to justify exactly why they need these powers, not vice versa :)
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Thats very true.:)

I would say that the false identity question justifies its use though.
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I honestly cannot fathom those who think this is justified in anyway. I think it's a step too far - and for every step taken there's another just beyond.
 
Just a massive ploy to get as many finger prints onto the database as possible.

"We don't keep the finger prints, honest guv!"
 
Unless I have misread the article, I thought it was to scan a fingerprint to confirm the driver's identity if they are on the database.

If not, then the police have other and more time consuming ways to confirm identity.

I don't see the problem when it is for confirmation purposes only. I would not agree with any records being kept from that device alone.
 
IainB said:
They are trialling that just about a mile from me, well known shortcut (Woodside Industrial Estate for those that know it) and well used as a race track at night... be good if they can get some of the scum off the roads round here!
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Ah! A fellow Dunstablian!

Been driving for around a month myself now. Not been through Woodside at night but I've heard that area is a bit of a hotspot for the local boy racers.

Do you know if the police are trialing it in the Luton/Dunstable area? Luton is horrendous for uninsured drivers and if this systems identifies and gets these idiots of the road the better.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Unless I have misread the article, I thought it was to scan a fingerprint to confirm the driver's identity if they are on the database.

If not, then the police have other and more time consuming ways to confirm identity.

I don't see the problem when it is for confirmation purposes only. I would not agree with any records being kept from that device alone.
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Domo said:
I honestly cannot fathom those who think this is justified in anyway. I think it's a step too far - **and for every step taken there's another just beyond**.
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This wont be the end of it..
 
If you get arrested for anything further down the line and you get busted for your fingerprints, the police cannot use that as evidence against you because you have not committed any crime in order to be in the system.

If they say they don't store the fingerprints, they cannot by law use that system against you if you're not aware of it. They may use it for information, they may use it to find you if you do something wrong, but they cannot prosecute you based on that evidence.
 
Entai, you work at millbrook? I have a self designed car on the build at the moment, who would I contact to try and be able to run some tests there?

James
 
Considering that fingerprint analysis is exempt from the same accuracy testing as things such as DNA profiling, a 94% hit rate on a technique that has an actual accuracy of something between 1 in 200-odd isn't as good as it sounds.

However, I don't really mind too much if my fingerprints are taken. The whole idea is not to get pulled over in the first place. A lot of people seem to be forgetting that small tidbit.
 
mrthingyx said:
Considering that fingerprint analysis is exempt from the same accuracy testing as things such as DNA profiling, a 94% hit rate on a technique that has an actual accuracy of something between 1 in 200-odd isn't as good as it sounds.

However, I don't really mind too much if my fingerprints are taken. The whole idea is not to get pulled over in the first place. A lot of people seem to be forgetting that small tidbit.
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You've never been pulled over for "wearing a cap" before then?
 
"Officers promise prints will not be kept on file "

with no way to verify that, how do we know they are not lying ?


'tis a Police States wet dream ...everyones fingerprints on file.
:-/
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Because it invades privacy and the moment you find out your prints are on file, when they shouldn't be, they are inadmissable in any court, thus hindering more than helping, should you end up in that situ'

'They' do not keep finger prints willy nilly. Some people have been reading too much Orwell..

Threads like this absolutey stink of irony. People always complaining that not enough police footwork is being done to filter out the criminals, yet every approach taken, and I do mean every, is always met with criticism and some times plain hatred. Just like the "I WAS PULLED OVER LAST NIGHT HOW DARE THEY!!!1 :mad: :mad:" threads.

These systems are there to REDUCE time wasted. Both your time, and police time. Instead of waiting for a radio check, or being shipped off to the police station, a simple press of finger, and if you are wanted, you'll get nicked. Simple.
 
to be honest i'd have no qualms about having my fingerprint linked to my driving license for ID purposes...
 
monkeyspank said:
You've never been pulled over for "wearing a cap" before then?
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Nope. But then my head is too big to fit in one, anyway, so I have to wear beanies. OBviously, ASBOs are easier to dish out than catching potential burglars... go figure.
 
For a start, they do this already. All immigrants have their fingerprints taken, and if the police suspect you of being an immigrant will use a scanner to check who you are.

I really dont understand why people are against this kind of thing. What the hell difference would it make to you if the police had your fingerprint on file.

If I were to be stopped by the police, for whatever reason, I dont see how having my fingerprint scanned infringes on any of my civil liberties or human rights. If anything it'll save me having to prove who I am, and that I have no criminal background.

And no, this is nothing like having a tag, or having my every movement tracked / recorded.
 
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