Police take down Proxy server :rolleyes:
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In short, content blocking is wrong and a total waste of time.
And money.
Because that war on drugs is going well.
MITM attacks are mitigated in public key crytography by secure authentication, or completely prevented by using a PSK.
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Excellent contribution and misquote.
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When one torrent site goes down, another goes up.
They can't stop it.
They can't stop it.
Or in the case of TPB, it just stays up.
Even when they had a warehouse raided, it was up a couple of days later.
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Just lol, you're a sheep!
Some people need to wise up that there are huge problems caused internationally by IP obfuscation. Yes you use it to download your torrented illegal movies, and drop the false-outrage card whenever you can, but there are many more people around the globe who use them for other less-savoury functions.
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I must admit, not a fan of IP. After all, if that's the case pay everyone who ever told you anything dividend s please
yeah but i figured virgin media would be less likley to try and nick your info than random proxy host in uganda or wherever lol
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they should have sent him an order to block those sites, like they did to isps.
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Many legal items are used to perform illegal activities. Your point is?
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Such a waste of resources.
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Yes, but there are also many people who need to use VPN services to allow them freedom of speech in countries that simply don't otherwise allow those sports of conversations in public.
Yes, paedophiles and other criminals use them too, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't support the vital use they provide for genuine users.
lol.
I must admit, from the face of it I find this very concerning, but it fits with the censorship focus that the current government has. I fear how far this might go and how the Internet may be changed forever.
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Better ban kitchen knives then, after all some people use them to stab people. Better ban vans as well as some people use them to ram raid shops.
As for paedophillia, why not just ban all forms of video and photographic equipment as 'some' people use them for taking pictures of naked kiddies.
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We also need to remember that it's services like iTunes and Spotify that have vastly reduced the amount of music piracy that once occurred through P2P sharing networks. Services that the music industry resisted until the benefits were so obvious they couldn't ignore it. If you're worried about digital content piracy, fix the stupid and broken business models that these industries cling to rather than censor the web. People want to be legal and will pay for it if it's made cheap and easy enough - which it currently isn't.
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On a serious note this is a worrying precedent.
Whilst the police enforce many laws that are preemptive towards criminal activities (i.e. stopping people carrying certain knives to prevent stabbings, enforcing speed limits to prevent death by dangerous driving etc) this is the first example I can think of where they are enforcing something to prevent a civil dispute.
Copyright infringement is NOT a criminal act but a civil one. You are sued not prosecuted for doing it. Now piracy (that is the legal definition in which someone mass produces and sells on copyrighted material for personal financial gain) is a criminal act and they argue this move is to stop that, but it seems they are saying they are doing it merely to protect IP which really isn't their jurisdiction.
Whilst the police enforce many laws that are preemptive towards criminal activities (i.e. stopping people carrying certain knives to prevent stabbings, enforcing speed limits to prevent death by dangerous driving etc) this is the first example I can think of where they are enforcing something to prevent a civil dispute.
Copyright infringement is NOT a criminal act but a civil one. You are sued not prosecuted for doing it. Now piracy (that is the legal definition in which someone mass produces and sells on copyrighted material for personal financial gain) is a criminal act and they argue this move is to stop that, but it seems they are saying they are doing it merely to protect IP which really isn't their jurisdiction.
Indeed.
Many people around the globe use knives for less savoury functions too ? should we ban them also ?
If this is about proxies being used for all round illegal activities, why haven't all proxies been made illegal and chased out of the country ? The answer is of course that it's not. Its not about proxies being used for illegal activies and needing to be removed.
Its about the film industry not understanding the digital age in the same way that they never understood the age of video. The film industry insisted that VHS should be made illegal as it enabled people to record films for themselves and was going to bring about an end to the film industry. It didn't of course, they just didn't understand it. This is no different
In their misguided attempts to stop file sharing, they tried to block the torrent websites, and it didn't work. And now they are trying to shutdown the proxies people use to circumvent these regulations and making them a scapegoat for failed legislation that doesn't work, is misguided, and only serves the corporate demands of the film industry big execs.
Exactly, there is healthly competition in the digital marketplace for purchasing digital music. Once you buy an album, nearly all purchases are now DRM free meaning you are free to put your digital music on your ipad, your phone, and you desktop. All without issues, the pricing is fair, and is usually cheaper than physical mediums, and it has nice perks like allowing you to only buy the songs you want on albums for paltry sums like 99p.
And heck, if you just want to listen to loads and loads of stuff and not pay for it, there are a multitude of streaming services out there, that offer unlimited access to more music than you could ever possibly listen to, at competitive monthly pricing.
The Film industry needs to wise up and stop sticking their head in the sand pretending its all our fault.
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