Police 'to be given powers to view everyone's entire internet history'

Moses said:
When you said,



You meant they'd use techniques to circumvent the measures in this legislation, right?
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Obviously and the point is they are likely to have a much wider awareness in security than a high percentage of Internet users (not everyone in the UK is in IT) and if you want a specific figure you'll have to survey the population.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34729139
MI5 has secretly been collecting vast amounts of data about UK phone calls to search for terrorist connections, the BBC has learned.

The programme has been running for 10 years under a law described as "vague" by the government's terror watchdog.

It emerged as Home Secretary Theresa May unveiled a draft bill governing online spying by the authorities.

It would mean the internet activity of everyone in Britain had to be stored for a year by service providers.

Mrs May told MPs the proposed powers were needed to fight crime and terror and pledged new safeguards over MI5, MI6 and the police using the data.
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Just had an email today about school websites. The dfe wants all schools to publish the Register of Governers business interests. Like most other schools this is normally published as a pdf file.
However its now come out that the DFE web scraping software cant read the pdf files.
 
Genuine question: why do people need a VPN?

Is it a way to "stick it to the man", or do people deal in that much dodgy business they want to cover their tracks at all costs? I'm not talking porn... That's a given, but what else are people hiding?

*backs away slowly*
 
Mrs May .... needed to fight crime and terror .... new safeguards over MI5, MI6 and the police using the data.
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Bwa ha ha, ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha ha ROFL!

Safeguards my left toenail, there'll be no such thing. A bit like how there isn't right now.
 
EVH said:
Genuine question: why do people need a VPN?

Is it a way to "stick it to the man", or do people deal in that much dodgy business they want to cover their tracks at all costs? I'm not talking porn... That's a given, but what else are people hiding?

*backs away slowly*
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Plausible deniability when you're looking for that Brokeback Mountain torrent...?

I guess it's the same answer as the answer to this question: "Why don't you want every single thing you say or do to be attributed to your real identity? Do you have something to hide?"

Sometimes you just want to be anonymous, or keep something private. The fact that we are being conditioned to see pro-privacy arguments as being pro-terror, or pro-pedophiles, is precisely the problem. The government is making this link in the minds of some, and it's entirely unreasonable.

And then there's the fact that some of us just don't trust the UK political and government establishment. We've already seen abuse of terror legislation. Then there was that couple who had their foster children taken away when the social worker saw they'd voted UKIP (I'm not sure if it was ever explained how the social worker found that out...). Trust is a two-way street.
 
EVH said:
Genuine question: why do people need a VPN?

Is it a way to "stick it to the man", or do people deal in that much dodgy business they want to cover their tracks at all costs? I'm not talking porn... That's a given, but what else are people hiding?

*backs away slowly*
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Tis partly 'stick it to the man' but I did not believe in carrying an identity card, and I do not believe that they need my browser history to secure world safety. So I withhold it.
 
oldbag said:
For me, this is more about universal monitoring of the population under the guise of protection, since any terrorist will use specific security techniques in communication, which your average non-technical person would not even understand, therefore we sacrifice our civil liberties for little gain.
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you realise that these terrorist are just using normal chat rooms etc hell they get infiltrated and tricked by journalists for Christ sake.

they also use this super dooper amazing encryption technique of just talking in person behind a closed door.

its much easier to buy a cheap pay as you go sim for cash in a corner shop use it for a short while then dump it than develop some elaborate cyber security.

or **** it letters sent by post
 
EVH said:
Genuine question: why do people need a VPN?

Is it a way to "stick it to the man", or do people deal in that much dodgy business they want to cover their tracks at all costs? I'm not talking porn... That's a given, but what else are people hiding?

*backs away slowly*
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It's more a privacy thing for me, the easiest way I was told about this was imagine someone from the GCHQ is sat at your window watching and recording everything you do. Most people will soon get fed up of that and want some privacy again. A VPN is acting as your curtains being drawn.
 
If you use a VPN, does it slow your connection down at all? Streaming or gaming?

Does it make sites think you're from a different country?
For instance, I have Netflix in the US, would it interpret me being in Japan for instance and then not allow me to use said site/app ?
 
Clipsey said:
If you use a VPN, does it slow your connection down at all? Streaming or gaming?

Does it make sites think you're from a different country?
For instance, I have Netflix in the US, would it interpret me being in Japan for instance and then not allow me to use said site/app ?
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I have mine set to turn on on startup, i honestly forgot it was even on. :p

As long as you pick a good provider you won't notice at all. You will be "located" wherever the server you are connecting to is.
 
Clipsey said:
If you use a VPN, does it slow your connection down at all? Streaming or gaming?

Does it make sites think you're from a different country?
For instance, I have Netflix in the US, would it interpret me being in Japan for instance and then not allow me to use said site/app ?
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Unblock.us will do the second thing. It is a proxy service which lets you pick what country you "appear" as to Netflix.

For instance, Netflix Brazil has better content than the US. Just log in to the website and boom, better content. Bit different to this VPN lark though.
 
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I think that all politicians should have streaming webcams in all thier rooms in thier homes and offices and vehicles. Nothing to hide, right?
 
EVH said:
Genuine question: why do people need a VPN?

Is it a way to "stick it to the man", or do people deal in that much dodgy business they want to cover their tracks at all costs? I'm not talking porn... That's a given, but what else are people hiding?

*backs away slowly*
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Why do people insist of having lock screens on their phones? It's not like they prevent theft so one can only presume they do it to stop friends and work colleagues from just picking up their phone and reading their text messages, which in turns must mean they have something to hide right?
 
Frankie Boyle's take on the 'snooper's charter' is well worth a read.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/10/frankie-boyle-theresa-may-internet-surveillance

It's odd that Boyle's humour actually provides some of the most cutting critique of a lot of issues. A few good nuggets in there:

Boyle said:
The government insists, as it tries to scrap the Freedom of Information Act, that only people who have something to hide should worry. People who run for public office will be afforded privacy, while our private lives will become public property.

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Of course, the government has been reading our social media messages for 15 years. Imagine the celebrations at GCHQ when they see a young couple they used to watch sexting, then [masturbating] on Skype, post their first kid’s school uniform pics on Facebook. In its own way, it must be quite touching.

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We will acquiesce to the scanning of Facebook posts to fight terrorism, which has killed 56 people in the UK in 10 years, but will still regard the killing of two women a week by their partners as a private domestic matter. God knows what this whole shambles says about us all psychologically. May herself gives the impression that the only childhood affection she got was the time a horse mistook her knuckles for a corn cob. At least this bill has allowed me to decode her permanently appalled expression: she looks as if she’s just seen my internet history.
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