The entire focus on speed full stop shows they have no real interest in road safety...
Police with speed guns hiding behind bushes
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The entire focus on speed full stop shows they have no real interest in road safety...
what has that got to do with what you said and my answer?
Because speed limits are based on statistics and the statistics show that if someone is hit at 30mph they have a much greater chance of surviving to tell the tale than if they were hit at anything faster.
Remember when you tried to slate me in my insurance argument, you used the word "statistics" about 100 times. This is the same thing.
i was on my fave b road a few years back and on a section i'm usually at approx 90mph there was some heavy traffic up ahead so slowed... then from nowhere a copper popped up from top of hedge in a field. he was a good 10m inside the field up on a hill
he must have actually been crouching before he popped up with camera... 100 yards up road 3-4 officers were then pulling those who were caught
pathetic..
he must have actually been crouching before he popped up with camera... 100 yards up road 3-4 officers were then pulling those who were caught
pathetic..
No one is denying that the faster a car moves, the more damage it does. But there are far more factors which contribute to dangerous road accidents than speed alone. If that were true, motorways would be the most dangerous roads in the country, not some of the safest.
Tell me, which is more dangerous in a 30MPH zone - someone doing 25MPH paying no attention while talking on a mobile phone, or something doing 35MPH but paying close attention to the road? The car doing 35MPH is obviously going to do the most damage if it hits someone, but the driver is probably more likely not to hit anyone anyway, because they are attentive and able to react to situations accordingly.
When they pull people up further down the road isn't usually ANPR checking for insurance and tax and things like that?
I didn't think they immediately pulled people for speeding in that manner, just posted the fine to them.
Just because its a 30mph road doesnt all of a sudden make it a dangerous road to speed. I've been well over the limit on 30 roads before, but only when I've considered it safe to do so. Nothing gives me the right to do so but I like to think that I am fairly careful when I do speed. If I see any potential hazards then I wont dream about having a quick burst of speed. If however, the road opens up, there are no side streets, hardly any people about and no cars in front or oncoming...I will occasionally rev it a little more than usual.
Don't get me wrong I'm not a dangerous driver at all but Im no saint. Im sure people will like to pretend they are and get up on their high horses but I will leave them to it.
For the record (incase people take what Ive said to make me seem like an idiot) Ive been driving 4 1/2 years, clocked up around 100k miles and have no convictions on my licence.
Don't get me wrong I'm not a dangerous driver at all but Im no saint. Im sure people will like to pretend they are and get up on their high horses but I will leave them to it.
For the record (incase people take what Ive said to make me seem like an idiot) Ive been driving 4 1/2 years, clocked up around 100k miles and have no convictions on my licence.
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if you arent speeding, you wont get caught. if you are and you see a camera great! you'll slow down. untill its out of sight.
And if you know anything about the reality of the road statistics, you'll know that the above statistic is drivel when presented as you have above. The study in question (Ashton and Mackay 1979) measured impact speeds, not travelling speeds, and to get an impact speed of 30mph in a road enviroment, the driver has to be going significantly quicker, or simply not brake at all. Free travelling speed and impact speed are two completely different things, and impact speed from free travelling speed has a significant componant related to how hard the car can brake etc etc.
The statistics speak for the themselves, the targetting of speed as a road safety approach makes absolutely no sense if you actually want to make the roads safer. To make roads safer, you have to reduce accidents, and reducing speed will not do that in a meaningful way, because excessive speed (which includes driving within the speed limit but too fast for the conditions) only has a causal effect in around 5% of accidents.
I suppose it varies. The guy in the van doing it that I chatted to a few months ago wasn't pulling people but he was on his own.
that not a copper with a speed gun, its a mobile speed camera van...
surely by speeding in the first place its the motorist making himself a criminal?
or does a policeman hiding in a bush somehow force you to increase your speed? what you are saying is as long as no policemen is there to witness the crime it didnt happen
maybe not knowing if a policemen is hiding behind a bush is a deterent in itselfs? you arent sure so you might think twice before sticking your foot down and gunning it
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The thing is though if we were all sensible, mature drivers there would be no need for speed limits. People would adapt their speed according to their environment. Even on NSL roads in the country you don't take some sharp corners at 60/70mph. Problem is there are so many idiots behind the wheel we're denied that freedom for the greater good.
I completely agree with your point though, only a small minority of 30mph roads are actually "dangerous" so to speak.
surely by speeding in the first place its the motorist making himself a criminal?
or does a policeman hiding in a bush somehow force you to increase your speed? what you are saying is as long as no policemen is there to witness the crime it didnt happen
maybe not knowing if a policemen is hiding behind a bush is a deterent in itselfs? you arent sure so you might think twice before sticking your foot down and gunning it
surely its better to make the person slow down, rather than let them speed on a stretch of road that they feel breaking the limit is severly wrong?
slow down one time while the police are about? the next day when they are gone the same person will be speeding again.
seems the police would just be wasting there time where as if this person wasnt sure of wether the police are about or not he probably wouldnt risk it.
you know what will eventually happen roads will have signals on there that stop your car from going above the limit
seems the police would just be wasting there time where as if this person wasnt sure of wether the police are about or not he probably wouldnt risk it.
you know what will eventually happen roads will have signals on there that stop your car from going above the limit
Better build some speed bumps then.
i would prefer chicanes / give ways or something instead