Polish Problem in local Area...

Stelly

Stelly

Stelly

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Hey All..

Something that really annoyed me today was that some polish family opened a polish shop by where I live... my parents went in to have a look and possibly purchase some goods and was told that they were not polish and so couldn't buy anything... and to leave the premises

My parents have reported this to the police, but they are not doing themselves any favours... but its the same in the schools as well, they refuse to learn english and so the schools have to accomidate them with Polish speaking teachers, I have also heard that the local churches have to do Polish masses as well...

I dont see them doing themselves any favours really... what do you think about this situation?

Stelly
 
I think that people who refuse to integrate with this country shouldn't be here. Nobody should expect to be made welcome if they aren't prepared to do so.
 
That doesn't sound right. To me, immigration means that you should be respectful of the country you emigrate to. It's just common sense really.

Plenty of immigrants to this country respect our laws, cultures, etc, and benefit as a result with rapid acceptance, so why should these people behave differently?

When in Rome...
 
The police will do nothing.... however if it was a black person coming into a shop and the white shopkeeper said "im not serving you because you are black" it would be world war three!

The polish shopkeeper is plainly being racist and should be charged with a public order offense for inciting racial hatred or something. They wont of course. :rolleyes:
 
I couldnt believe it at first either... my mum and dad are really nice people and dont have a bad word to say against anyone but this shop keeper was really rude and very nasty to them...

Stelly
 
Perhaps, and I'm playing devil's advocate here, they've had problems with more unsavioury and xenophobic locals previously, and their reaction to your parents was simply born from it. Who knows? One of those Polish delis have been recently opened near me - I might try going in and buying something.
 
that does sound strange. we know a fair number of Polish families in locality to where we live, Oldham etc...

and there have been Ukranian/Polish clubs/churches for years, (im talking decades) where they do the sermon in foreign tongue.

wasn't a problem years ago, and its not like they are congregating within an "English" church and forcing the priest to give a polish sermon, (how would the priest know to speak Polish anyway?!)
so to me that sounds like an exageration, especially bearing in mind that they are likely to be Catholic, as opposed to COE anyway...
 
im polish and never seen anything like that before, i dont like going to polish shops as i dont like the food they sell, except sweets :) and polish booz,

im sorry to hear that your parrents werent allowed to buy anything, i just find it stupid that they werent allowed to spend money in there, i hope they will go out of business very soon,
 
Yea such a travesty that their positive discrimination has been branded as racism aswell eh, ah well.
 
I don't care if the owner is Mother Teresa mate. The owner seems to be discriminating against anyone who isn't Polish. I wonder how well it would go down if I opened up a shop and told anyone who didn't have an English accent or wasn't white to leave.

"Positive discrimination". Hahaha. What good reason does he have for doing that?
 
Griffin said:
take the law into your own hands.
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And do what exactly? Go in and tell them in a stern tone that you want to purchase something from their shop? If you do anything further you are the person in the wrong here and a shopkeeper is under no obligation to serve you anyway regardless of who you are, what you look like or how much money you have.

You taking a product up to the counter creates an "invitation to treat" which the shopkeeper can either accept or decline for whatever reason they choose so if they don't like the fact you wear your hair in a side parting then that is a good enough reason legally speaking, in fact they don't even need that on a strict technical point.

Stelly, it is unfortunate if the sole reason your parents were not served is because they are not Polish but as a shop they are within their rights to refuse to serve, perhaps not for reasons of nationality but all they would need to do is make up an excuse about anything in the unlikely event it goes to court. It doesn't sound to me like a sound business strategem but sadly there isn't much you could do aside from publicise the reason that your parents were refused and hope that the shop goes out of business quickly for being moronic (if that is indeed the sole reason and not simple case of mistaken identity or similar).
 
To be honest, and with all due respect, I'll find it hard to believe that a Polish shop refused to serve "native" Liverpoolians. It just doesn't make sense for any shop to voluntarily forfeit basic trading standards for the sake of it. Polish shops do not even serve, in strict meaning of the world, ethnic food that would require any form of specific introduction to other markets, there is nothing on the shelf that you wouldn't encouter in local Tescos, so refusal to serve non-Poles just doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever. I think it was some sort of misunderstanding, something lost in translation between girl on the counter and your parents. I would be more than happy to call the shop and query it if you were willing to provide more information on location etc...
 
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