Poll: Poll: What dual-core phone are you going for?

["andy"]

Which suggests there are a minority of phones you think are better than the iPhone 4.

but that i still wouldn't consider 'going for' because the improvement just isnt enough. infact the improvement begins and ends with a dual core cpu and a bit more ram and i have no idea what i need those for



its my opinion that people should be working on better apps and games instead of on cramming faster and faster cpus in. its beginning to remind me of the pc graphics card business... just milking more cash out of those who have it

 

[Glaucus]

People saying iPhone 5 when no one knows what it looks like or what it has in it just goes to show the amount sheeple Apple now control. I bet if you put a poll up asking what you'll have in 10 years there'd say iPhone 15.

Well for a starti at least said if it there is a need for the hardware. Unlike android where you have a choice of devices, if you want iOS there is no choice it is simply the new version or stick with the old, so not as stupid as you make it out to be.

And really how different is it to android or other market? What exactly is there for dual core ATM? There's no apps and no need, but people will buy it at launch regardless. Rather than waiting and seeing what the developers do, then buying when it's needed.

 

[estebanrey]

Apple have done an amazing thing, they have managed to get themselves integrated into peoples lives, making it harder to get away from.

You could say the same thing about heroin

Its my opinion that people should be working on better apps and games instead of on cramming faster and faster cpus in. its beginning to remind me of the pc graphics card business... just milking more cash out of those who have it

That's hilarious coming from an Apple fan.

And really how different is it to android or other market? What exactly is there for dual core ATM? There's no apps and no need, but people will buy it at launch regardless. Rather than waiting and seeing what the developers do, then buying when it's needed.

Chicken and egg, one has to come first doesn't it?

 

[Morba]

You could say the same thing about heroin

True, should never have been banned that stuff! lol

 

[Tunney]

People saying iPhone 5 when no one knows what it looks like or what it has in it just goes to show the amount sheeple Apple now control. I bet if you put a poll up asking what you'll have in 10 years there'd say iPhone 15.

... or they have plenty of money invested in iOS apps, want to upgrade their current 3G/3GS iPhone but think that they might as well wait for the new model rather than buying an iPhone 4 now.

It's no different from a PC gamer being certain that their next computer will run Windows. They've made an investment and want to maintain compatibility with their current software.

 

[estebanrey]

... or they have plenty of money invested in iOS apps, want to upgrade their current 3G/3GS iPhone but think that they might as well wait for the new model rather than buying an iPhone 4 now.

It's no different from a PC gamer being certain that their next computer will run Windows. They've made an investment and want to maintain compatibility with their current software.

It is different because if said gamer currently has a Dell he can choose an HP for his next PC and still maintain compatbility.

The point about apps is only half relevant. 60% of Android apps are free (compared to 27% from the appstore) so most of the apps people have paid for they could replace for free if they switched to Android.

That's why I hate Apple, monetise everything you can and make it so people have to invest in your products constantly making it harder for someone to give it up later without them feeling like they are losing an investment. Hammer it home by making anything purchased on an Apple product incompatible with other manufacturers.

Great for Apple shareholders, crap for end users and healthy competition.

 

[Glaucus]

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Chicken and egg, one has to come first doesn't it?

Yep, but just like computers, it's usually pointless being the first adopters.

 

[Glaucus]

The point about apps is only half relevant. 60% of Android apps are free (compared to 27% from the appstore) so most of the apps people have paid for they could replace for free if they switched to Android.

load of rubbish, many apps simply aren't on android.
The reasoned android has so many free, is it is filled with people's home projects, android and apple apps same for same are almost identically priced. Great example is apple vs android BBC app. One is a slick video enabled official app, the other is a home cobbled rss feed.

And if you look at the stats although the average cost per app is less than apple, the cost for the top paid apps, is considerably more on android, than on apple.

 

[estebanrey]

Yep, but just like computers, it's usually pointless being the first adopters.

But it's not pointless, according the SlashGears review the dual core makes Gingerbread much faster and I read somewhere else that the browser also makes use of the dual core set up (one core loads the text, the other loads the multimedia).

Gingerbread 2.3 does benefit from a dual core..

But with the ext4 file system, a single core Android device will get performance boost and even higher when it works with dual core processor.

..and 2.4 due out soon is supposed to be completely optimised for dual core support.

One man's early adopter is another man's future proofer. I could turn what you're saying around and ask why would anyone buy a single core Android now and prevent yourself from making the most out of the next release.

I would be shocked if the iPhone 5 wasn't dual core and given it is due out around September I would hardly call buying a dual core today premature. Especially as when Crapple bring out a dual core phone, Steve Nobs will tell everyone how "cool" and "awesome" dual core is (they'll probably call it 'double brain' or something though much like how they call video calling 'face time').

 

[Glaucus]

You wouldn't buy a single core, but there is no point upgrading for the sake of it, android/iOS in it's current form does not need a speed boost. Again it's just like computers, yes you get a speed boost, but what for? It doesn't avheive anything.


Nice childish names there. Suppose you call Microsoft by a different name as well.

 

[estebanrey]

From slashgear review of SGS2

Samsung has sensibly started with Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread from the off, and Google’s latest version for smartphones flies on the dual-core Exynos chip.

Performance is consistently strong: apps load swiftly, the gallery thumbnails populate instantaneously, and pinch-zooming is lag-free. Google Maps loads and locates you faster than on any other device we’ve seen, and the mapping renders as quickly as you can scroll.

But yeah, the dual core chip is 'pointless'

 

[estebanrey]

Nice childish names there.

Have you seen a Steve Jobs press conference? You want to see child-like behaviour go watch one, it's cringeworthy listening to a middle aged man use words like "awesome" and "cool"....

 

[Glaucus]

But yeah, the dual core chip is 'pointless'

ATM it is, I didn't say it would always be pointless. Well done you keep quoting it's going to be faster, I've never disagreed with that. But how many people actually have a problem with how long a SG loads up an app? This side to al to computing, new tech is always faster, but it'd want mean you can make any sensible use for it, until the software is there to use that extra power. By which time the phones(not the case for apple) will off dropped in price and will be a multitude of phones to choose from and proper real world reviews.

 

[Glaucus]

Have you seen a Steve Jobs press conference? You want to see child-like behaviour go watch one, it's cringeworthy listening to a middle aged man use words like "awesome" and "cool"....

Yes I have, it's marketing. Most marketing is cringe worth. What bearing does it have on anything though? Does it change the way the phone works, or how people use it? Of course not.

 

[Robbo]

Well Acid, at the moment the latest iOS update has made the iPhone 4 less responsive (that could be down to coding but surely Apple aren't that stupid) than it was when they launched it, the iPad2's extra processing power is very noticeable in many iOS tasks.

Android DOES see big benefits from dual-core, it obviously depends on what you do, but watching an embedded high quality flash video within the browser will bring things like the Desire to their knees in general use, with 1.2Ghz dual-core you aren't going to have that problem, you simply do not have slow downs unless all of the people and review sites with the SGS2 are lying.

Certain instabilities with the Android platform can be fixed by more processing power, its just how the OS works.

 

[Glaucus]

Never seen galaxy struggle with anything.

As for ip4 again it still runs smoothly after the update for me, dual core is the future. But I still maintain upgrading for the sake of ugrading is silly. If your contract is at the end then yes your going to get dual. But that simply not the case for most people in this forum or the apple forum. It's nothing more thanmusthavelatest gadget.

 

[Tunney]

The point about apps is only half relevant. 60% of Android apps are free (compared to 27% from the appstore) so most of the apps people have paid for they could replace for free if they switched to Android.

It's hard to reply to this statement without starting a whole new thread.

Bottom line: Most of the quality games on iOS haven't been ported to Android (yet). Examples: Infinity Blade, Dead Space, Plants vs. Zombies, World of Goo, etc.

That's why I hate Apple

That's understandable, but don't let it blind you to reality.

 

[Robbo]

Never seen galaxy struggle with anything.

As for ip4 again it still runs smoothly after the update for me, dual core is the future. But I still maintain upgrading for the sake of ugrading is silly. If your contract is at the end then yes your going to get dual. But that simply not the case for most people in this forum or the apple forum. It's nothing more thanmusthavelatest gadget.

My point is that there are benefits to it, it isn't pointless. There are situations where Android can struggle and it can have delays, obviously that depends on what you are doing.

I have tried six iPhone 4's on the latest version of iOS and they all exhibit very minor lagging, you've just got yours recently so you might not really notice it and it isn't much of a problem, but it still bugs me as the iP4 is already going down the iPhone 3G lag route as a result of (what I can only assume is) the iPad2 being more powerful.

I like having an Android phone alongside my iPhone 4 and I'll see how the SGS2 holds up. I'm expecting it to be very impressive.

The only thing I'll miss really are the quality of some of the apps, but we'll see

I also only really do web browsing most of the time, so a nice 4.3' screen and fully functioning browser is always preferable, especially when its a refined SAMOLED screen

 

[TheVoice]

Never seen galaxy struggle with anything.

As for ip4 again it still runs smoothly after the update for me, dual core is the future. But I still maintain upgrading for the sake of ugrading is silly. If your contract is at the end then yes your going to get dual. But that simply not the case for most people in this forum or the apple forum. It's nothing more thanmusthavelatest gadget.

Yes, but you're in a forum populated considerably with enthusiasts, so it stands to reason they're going to be the sort of people who jump onto the new tech as soon as it's available. It's no different in any of the other sub-forums on here; people are always buying the latest graphics cards, CPUs, SSDs etc for the sake of having that extra performance, even if it isn't quite necessary.

 

[Morba]

It's amazing how dual core is supposedly so much faster, noticeably so, when top end android phones are apparently really fast and responsive already.

Pinch zoom on iPhone is instant. Everything opens instanty when I want it to. How are dual core phones going to make it more instant?