Pond pumps

Thanks let me get some close ups tonight

Yes the ground difference is quite a big difference
Really well thought out idea.

At one point I was thinking of getting rid of it but it is such a beautiful pond and needs some tlc. Could be the pinnacle of the garden.
 
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So that looks like a really old hozelock titan pump (back in the day they were the nuts!), running into an oldschool vortex and standard foam and media setup.

While it will "do the job" of keeping a low stocked pond (a few goldfish) turning over it wont stop it going green as you have no UV.

As a minimum youll need a UV on there if you dont want green water, something like a Evolution Aqua EvoUV Clarifier - 55w (yes 55watts is overkill for your pond but given the minor price increase over a smaller unit its worth it, you can never have too much UV, as well as that 55 watt bulbs are cheap and easy to replace).

If you want to have more than a few goldfish, youll need to replace that filter, I suggest buying second hand if thats the case, a oldschool multibay setup are cheap but reliable, easy to maintain and effective for smaller ponds:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/koi-pond-filter-system-4-chamber-plus-vortex/323776317470

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vor-Tec-multibay-pond-Filter/283451729873

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vortex-1200-Fiberglass-Koi-Pond-Filter/254198760096

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pond-filter-Kockney-koi-multibay-pond-filter-5000/283451355274

Vortex, brushes, foam, matting, moving bed media type setup. Cleaning will just involve turning the pump off, draining the filter to waste, giving the brushes a quick hose off and then refilling.
 
Mmmm Sounds bit more long wounded than I originally thought!

What if I just replaced the pump for now
Just wondering what that 55w uv light would do vs the first pump

Does it actually light the pond up at night time?

55w sounds much more expensive to run 24/7 so not sure I like the sound of that at all
 
Do you want clear water? Yes > Needs UV. No > Doesnt need UV.

Do you want more than a few goldfish? Yes > You need a better filter than that. No > That filter is fine.

Go from there :)
 
Adding UV to my Mother's pond transformed it from a continual battle with green water to more-or-less completely clear water year-round.

Her's is under 3,000 litres but seriously overstocked as they keep breeding. Adding an inline 9W UV lamp did the job.
 
So as others have said (and I suspected), the filtration you have is:

Pump -> vortex -> matting -> plastic bio “balls” and then out of the pipes to the waterfall and back to the pond. If the matting gets overloaded with muck then it will overflow over the top of the pipes and out down the waterfall (a fail safe mechanism).

The idea is that the water in the vortex turns and like a dyson the larger solid waste particles drop to the bottom. The brushes use electro static attraction to filter the finer waste particles.
The matting then filter the last particles and should have a bacteria colony (as well as the plastic bits underneath) that then break down the liquid waste into nutrients that the plants can use.

The UV bulb discussed above acts like a steriliser (you don’t see the light) for water passing through it. It helps kill both bacteria going through it but also single cell algae that bloom if the plants can’t take the nutrients out of the water fast enough.

That pond has a lot of options that you could do - including vegetation or big filtration that passes the water through plant roots.

So initially you could get the pond up and running, then upgrade if you need depending on what you want.

The pumps are expensive and you need to look carefully at the height the pump needs to push the water up to.
If that one works - keep it and replace the broken pipe (easy to get hold of) until you’re ready to change.

I inherited a pond that was overstocked with koi, had a 2500 sized pump and a little 4500 sized canister filter - it was hell. Getting the right kit made all the difference - literally doubling the flow rate and capacity!

So I would;
* check the pump works
* replace the piping and clips
* clean the filter (don’t use detergent)
* set it running

That would get you moving at a low cost.

It will also allow you to check for issues like holes in the pond liner for the waterfall.

Measure the head height if you want to replace the pump. Factor in a drop of 1/4 of the flow rate as the pump ages (in addition to the drop caused by pumping the water up to the top of the head).
 
Thanks going to stick with what i got for now

I know the pump works only last time i started the system lots of water went missing from the pond

What is the clip i need to join that pipe up?? What is the name?
 
Initially the pump would need to fill the filter and waterfall but if the piping and connectors would be my first step.

Pipe inner diameter affects flow rate (so does sharp bends) so go for a decent pipe diameter but it should fit the connectors (usually a push fit) then use two screw tightened jubilee clips.

I don’t know the sizes of the connectors on on the pump and filter but get non kink piping - mine has quite thick walls.
 
thanks just realised all of the connectors are different sizes
I got to measure the diameter of the pipe to workout which clip I need.

luckily I got a bit of extra pipe, so do u all think that the pond needs much more water filling up there? looking at the lines
 
Yup I would as the water will need to fill the filter too.

Ponds evaporate so you will find some natural drop. It looks like the pond is not in full sun which is good.
 
Yup I would as the water will need to fill the filter too.

Ponds evaporate so you will find some natural drop. It looks like the pond is not in full sun which is good.

ah maybe that is why the water drops when I run the pump! as the filter gets full then all of the water goes into those pathways.

yes not in full sun garden faces north west but it is very long so we get sun early in the morning as well as during the day
 
Yes - you can ad them inline..

how does it work though -

I'm guessing pond wire to the light for the electrical connection but what about connecting it to my filter if I don't want to do that can I just drop a uv light to the bottom of the pond or something?!
 
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