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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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Any significant GPU advancements over the next few years will most likely be spurred on by the VR market, which as most know will render in stereoscopic and at 2364x1461 for current hardware (Rift and Vive), which is pretty much 1440p, VRAM and bandwidth will become a major factor in the very near future where I think HBM will really shine.
 
Boomstick777 said:
We know when the cards the coming, I think we can all just wait now before jumping on AMD.

AMD are trying some genuinely new innovative technology, they are the first to HBM and also the first (In partnership with PC Gamer) to create a PC event for E3. These are pretty big things tbh.

Can't help but think AMD deserve more credit than they get. I will reserve my judgement on the new cards until I can actually judge them by reviews and benchmarks. If they suck then fair enough, but that will be then. Throwing them under the bus before we even have reviews / benchmarks is foolish.
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Not entirely sure why there's such a defensive tone in your remarks. Who is 'throwing AMD under the bus' here?

This is a speculation thread and we seem to have some specs firmly down at this point. The recent points being made are entirely legitimate.

Ultimately your right though, we'll have to see if HBM can work magic in ways we haven't seen yet.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Can't help but think AMD deserve more credit than they get. I will reserve my judgement on the new cards until I can actually judge them by reviews and benchmarks. If they suck then fair enough, but that will be then. Throwing them under the bus before we even have reviews / benchmarks is foolish.
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Problem is, what's the point of a fast card but with poor support/gameworks gimping games??? :(
 
best reason to delay is either a new technology or product that would revolutionise your value proposition (the current one being not so good)..

maybe dx12 helps with 4gb vram, maybe hbm2 is closer than reported..something else to keep the rumour/fud going?
 
JediFragger said:
Agreed, even if it was 20% is faster I still wouldn't bother with it due to this fact. AMD are ****-poor atm regarding Crossfire drivers and releases in general :(

Crossfire Freesync driver anyone!?????
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20% faster, in a single gpu card? thats defnitely worth it....never had any problems with drivers in single gpu on either side.
 
ginjaninja said:
what leads you in this direction?

the titan has been a known commodity for many months...if amd could beat it at sensible noise, wouldnt they have shown that by now to ensure people wait for it?
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The card has been in development for quite a while now, the only thing they are going to be able to do is rise GPU core speed which in turn rises temps. (see below mention)

The AIO watercooler is already at it's max I suppose, anything more would need LN2 and I doubt a lot of people would like a LN2 reference Fury X :p

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20% faster, in a single gpu card? thats defnitely worth it....never had any problems with drivers in single gpu on either side.
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Single GPU is fine from both camps. Crossfire is an issue mainly due to AMD being slow in providing drivers for games.

Jedifragger and I are both running 4K so a single GPU isn't going to cut it on this gen of GPUs.
 
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Mayh3M said:
Haha. I've only been into PC gaming/tech for half a year, but what I will say is that the rumour mill, especially just before the launch of a card, seems to be really accurate when it comes to GPU specs.

We were told months ago this would have an AIO and 4 GB HBM, both of which were debated hotly back then. They are pretty much a given now.
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Some don't want to believe it will come with 4GB. Not sure why in fairness and I pretty much thought it was common knowledge. 4GB isn't great but if it keeps the cost down and AMD can do a good job of memory compression, it is all gravy to me. I don't really want an AIO cooler for the simplistic swapping in and out to record games performance in different hardware but that shouldn't be a problem either if I just switch off the lane that is not being used at the time, so I can live with that.

I am very much looking forward to the Fury X coming and hopefully getting to see what is what :)
 
Mayh3M said:
Not entirely sure why there's such a defensive tone in your remarks. Who is 'throwing AMD under the bus' here?

This is a speculation thread and we seem to have some specs firmly down at this point. The recent points being made are entirely legitimate.

Ultimately your right though, we'll have to see if HBM can work magic in ways we haven't seen yet.
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Haha !

Are you reading the same thread?

4GB isn't enough... But 3.5Gb + 0.5GB is fine..

AMD have crap drivers and crap crossfire drivers, but Nvidia's are excellent ! (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28126851&postcount=3571)

The AMD card will run to hot ! (980 Ti touches 90c, that's fine)

AIO cards are to fiddly ! (Nvidia AIO's are just excellent)

:D Haha I could go on like this all day !


Just wait now peeps, let's condemn and criticise after we see the reviews / benchmarks.

I for one salute AMD for bringing something actually new to the GPU space (HBM) along with organising with PC gamer the first ever PC 'E3' event.
 
pure speculation here ...but what if the Fury X is a dual gpu beast with 4GB per GPU?
I wonder if they could make 2x4GB into unified memory somehow. Now that would indeed be the fastest card in the world.
 
Boomstick777 said:
We know when the cards the coming, I think we can all just wait now before jumping on AMD.

AMD are trying some genuinely new innovative technology, they are the first to HBM and also the first (In partnership with PC Gamer) to create a PC event for E3. These are pretty big things tbh.

Can't help but think AMD deserve more credit than they get. I will reserve my judgement on the new cards until I can actually judge them by reviews and benchmarks. If they suck then fair enough, but that will be then. Throwing them under the bus before we even have reviews / benchmarks is foolish.
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Also Got Partnership with Microsoft and Xbox showing at E3 with AMD and PCgamer.. I expect big things tbh..

If it wasn't something big enough I very doubt PCGamer and Microsoft would be hosting E3 with AMD..
 
Boomstick777 said:
Haha !

Are you reading the same thread?

4GB isn't enough... But 3.5Gb + 0.5GB is fine..

AMD have crap drivers and crap crossfire drivers, but Nvidia's are excellent ! (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28126851&postcount=3571)

The AMD card will run to hot ! (980 Ti touches 90c, that's fine)

AIO cards are to fiddly ! (Nvidia AIO's are just excellent)

:D Haha I could go on like this all day !


Just wait now peeps, let's condemn and criticise after we see the reviews / benchmarks.

I for one salute AMD for bringing something actually new to the GPU space (HBM) along with organising with PC gamer the first ever PC 'E3' event.
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This is so true! just watch how fast the AMD is so hot is forgotten now.. :D :D
 
Boomstick777 said:
8GB would be the sweet spot, but we still don't know how 4GB HBM would actually perform. Those same guys that said the 3.5GB + 0.5GB GTX 970 is fine, don't say the same thing about AMD's 4GB HBM. Funny that :D
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They're aimed at different markets, GTX970 is a £250 middle to high end card and Fury is top tier and rumoured to be at least £500.

I wouldn't buy a GTX970 expecting to whack every graphical setting up to full but for Fury it's the opposite, you wouldn't be expecting to have to balance settings and make sacrifices.
 
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Mayh3M said:
How do you know if 4 GB is enough VRAM for 4K when your card is massively lacking in grunt at that resolution?
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That is a fair question, A VRAM bottleneck manifests itself as serious stutters, whereas not having GPU grunt is simply a case of consistently low FPS.

If I try to run Witcher3 at 4K with high/ultra settings for example, it will be hitting low - mid 20s FPS but there is no sudden drops to single digit FPS. Even if a GTX 980Ti is 30% faster it still leaves the game running at high 20s - mid 30s.

Hence my reluctance to upgrade to a 980Ti and why I will wait to see what Fury X brings to the table.
 
Boomstick777 said:
4GB isn't enough... But 3.5Gb + 0.5GB is fine..

AMD have crap drivers and crap crossfire drivers, but Nvidia's are excellent ! (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28126851&postcount=3571)

The AMD card will run to hot ! (980 Ti touches 90c, that's fine)

AIO cards are to fiddly ! (Nvidia AIO's are just excellent)
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Completely agree!

It makes for great reading :D If I had the will power and time, I would go back through some peoples post history and quote them all :D

Remember when the 970/980 were released and how certain people were jumping with joy because the GPU's ran quietly and cool but with the 980ti and even the TX, apparently it is a non issue now? :D
 
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