Possible to live without money?

When I was unemployed and on JSA I didnt pay council tax, but it was a council property I was living in. So i dont know if that would be the same case if you were living in a self built home
 
Moses99p said:
Well if you had enough money to begin with you could purchase a house/land, but you'd need to grow/rear a surplus to sell for minor repairs/to pay council tax/etc. What you're saying is kinda possible, but not absolutely so.
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Not necessarily, you could build and repair the house out of materials from your land (wood, straw and mud, some guy did just this on Grand Designs a couple of years ago).

Council tax wise if you had no income you may be able to get away with not paying it due to circumstances, however you would probably have to jump through hoops and join JSA or something.
 
Jock Dodds said:
Good article about this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2009/oct/28/live-without-money
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Interesting thanks.

edscdk said:
it totally depends on your meaning of decent life style...

without help and a bartering system which is almost the same as money its gonna be a crap life compared to what we are used to.

If you could muster a few slaves to make all your stuff it might be ok, other wise its gonna be a load of hard work (which most of use are not used to).
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A comparable lifestyle to now, meaning a real piece of land and a house made from materials i find or get given, all using freely available knowledge and a bit of work, i already have a bunch of stuff i can use to entertain me, laptops are low power, mobiles i can live without, family and friends for support, trouble really comes from the system that's trying to force you to be a part of it.
 
Radiation said:
Is it possible to live without money while still maintaining a decent standard of living?

Can i find a bit of land, build my own house, produce my own food, water and power while making stuff i own last longer, all through knowledge and a little work, to live a good but low consumption lifestyle while never paying a penny in tax again?
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You might be able to build yourself a house/domicile of some sort and avoid paying council tax but you'd have to fall into one of the categories of people exempt or do it as a fugitive of sorts - if you could find somewhere remote enough with no-one laying claim to the land at all (somewhat unlikely) then it might be just about possible to build and not have the council tax payments but it would only be through the authorities lack of knowledge rather than a "right" to do so. So yes, you can do most of it with no real money to speak of but some of it you cannot avoid.

Radiation said:
There are many benefits to society but surely its my choice to not only live without the system but use the advances from it and be free of it's negatives, after all i could say all i know is that im another life form living on earth, why should i subscribe to the will of another as long as i do not affect anothers freedoms, no person or group can lay claim to ever square inch of land on earth nor can they dictate how or where i travel?
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So you want all the positives but none of the negatives? This doesn't strike you as at all unrealistic? If other people have had to suffer to achieve these positives then why should you get them gratis?
 
semi-pro waster said:
So you want all the positives but none of the negatives? This doesn't strike you as at all unrealistic? If other people have had to suffer to achieve these positives then why should you get them gratis?
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You'd think people didn't want to be happy. You complain about almost everything that goes on in both your country and indeed the world but then get all defensive when some actual change is proposed.
 
Superewza said:
You'd think people didn't want to be happy. You complain about almost everything that goes on in both your country and indeed the world but then get all defensive when some actual change is proposed.
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Me? If you think I complain about much in Britain then I suspect you may have me confused with someone else - I'm lucky to live in Britain and I don't believe I've ever suggested otherwise. Here I'm simply asking why this idealistic lifestyle should exist outwith the system - if you want the benefits then why should you not have (at least some of) the associated costs.
 
Apart from council tax. Certainly possible.
Depending what you want depends initial outlay.

Plenty of things you can do to make a bit of money on the side.
As for things like power, water, sewage. That really isn't a problem at all.

Just like that bloke on Grand design who built a house in a forest and made charcoal and sold it to get enough cash to buy essential stuff when he needed it.
 
Anything is possible (well almost anything), however I wouldn't call life without money comfortable.

Can you imagine having some health/teeth issues. Would you pay a dentist with some carrots?
 
It's called self sufficiency, it's doable.

Hugh fernley whittingstall is aiming for self sufficiency, seems to know what he's doing.
Any small bills you have to pay, you can pay by selling crops and stuff.

You're basically becoming a farmer, which i reckon is great. I'd love to be self sufficient.

Bit of farming, lots of time to read books and make wine, chill with the bro's, sex up the farmers wife.
Difficult to do nowadays though, in this country anyway, and you need money behind you to start up anyway.
 
I get around said:
It's called self sufficiency, it's doable.

Hugh fernley whittingstall is aiming for self sufficiency, seems to know what he's doing.
Any small bills you have to pay, you pay for with your tv deal, book contract and lashings of money from mummy
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Not saying it's not possible, but Hugh isn't a good example :)
 
The tax issue is going to be a thorny one, even if you were growing/making enough to sell to pay for council tax etc you'd probably then fall foul of income tax regulations. If you make your own fuel you can be done for fuel tax evasion (which is, in my opinion, ridiculous).

Unless of course you can convince the Inland Revenue to accept carrots or rabbit skin hats as payment...
 
mmj_uk said:
Do you think people would be 40hr a week slaves if there was?
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You work for things, for computers, hd lcd televisions and sky tv.

If you didn't need those things and had a very modest lifestyle, get yourself on a few allotment schemes - how much money do you think you'd need to get by?

You could grow a lot of your own food, get a wood burning boiler for heating and hot water, spend time making things, growing food, collecting wood.

You'd still need money but you could probably just work 1 or 2 days a week, you'd need the other 5 for everything else you need to do to get by though. Very much a lifestyle choice, not an easy choice.
 
One of the critical causes of those symptoms is the fact we no longer have to see the direct repercussions our purchases have on the people, environment and animals they affect. The degrees of separation between the consumer and the consumed have increased so much that we're completely unaware of the levels of destruction and suffering embodied in the stuff we buy. The tool that has enabled this separation is money.
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Very interesting...... muchos kudos to this dude.
 
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