Possible to turn this single slot network point into a double?

hughythomas · 14 Aug 2013 at 15:31

Hey guys

Forgive my ignorance here but can I simply buy a different fascia plate for this network point and upgrade to dual point connectivity? I am unable to attach a switch to this point as no power nearby and want to tidy up the mess of cables I have in my room:

Is this doable by myself or should I find a company who can install networks to do the work instead?

Cheers

quickshot89 · 14 Aug 2013 at 15:37

you will need a second cable installed

Tomsk · 14 Aug 2013 at 15:52

Easiest way is with a couple of network socket splitters.

hughythomas · 14 Aug 2013 at 15:52

OK great thank you for confirming this - as it happens the cable currently installed is only Cat 5e so I was tempted to get it ripped out anyways as I want to avoid the radiation of wireless (and have some Cat 6 stuff here ready to install).

Thanks man.

Tomsk · 14 Aug 2013 at 15:56

Make sure you get the right type of splitter. Probably better known as network socket economisers.

hughythomas · 14 Aug 2013 at 16:03

Its cool guys I've got a chap gonna call me back tomorrow and come in to sort it all out.

If a jobs worth doing at all sorta thing...

bremen1874 · 14 Aug 2013 at 16:06

If you need Gigabit then an additional cable will be required.

If you can live with a 10/100 connection then you could get away with just the cable you have in place. As Tomsk mentioned you could use commercially available socket economisers, but there's also the option of just spliting the pairs between two sockets of a dual faceplate.

KIA · 14 Aug 2013 at 20:49

Tin foil hat time.

hughythomas · 15 Aug 2013 at 18:02

Dude wireless radiation has been linked to a multitude of degenerative diseases and/or serious health problems. Google it if you don't believe me.

It's only going to get worse as the wireless telecommunications technology becomes more embedded in our daily lives.

But yer keep using your Microwave oven, eating fish from the Pacific ocean (after Fukushima) and using wireless if thats what you wanna do just try to avoid making fun of the people like myself who have actually had the due diligence to research the subject thoroughly and armed ourselves with the right information to avoid cancer and Alzhemers etc.

Sorry that sounds way harsher than is intended lol!

Jez · 15 Aug 2013 at 19:23

I wonder what you would think of my house then, wireless IR senders, a microwave, DECT phones, 3 wifi access points, and a femtocell serving 4 mobile phones (personal mobile cell station as no cell reception here in the countryside).

Point in hand, as per post #7 you can split the cores between two sockets at both ends of the cable run if you can live with the ports supporting 100mbit only. 100mbit only requires 4 cores of the 8 available in that cable.

KIA · 15 Aug 2013 at 21:23

Jez said:
I wonder what you would think of my house then, wireless IR senders, a microwave, DECT phones, 3 wifi access points, and a femtocell serving 4 mobile phones (personal mobile cell station as no cell reception here in the countryside).

Dat evil radiation is going to give you cancer!!!!!111111111

hughythomas · 15 Aug 2013 at 21:43

Whilst I agree it is healthy to be skeptical about the veracity of information I direct you to:

http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/BioInitiativeReport2012.pdf

This was a study performed in 2012 by a group of 29 scientists. The conclusion(s) speak for themselves.

I would urge you start arming yourself with the right information guys - WiFi (according to many other independent studies in addition to this one) does in fact present a real danger to human health and my choice to turn it off is entirely my own free will.

I would therefore ask to not be the subject of ridicule for taking precautionary steps to reduce the damage in the privacy of my own home.

Thank you.

Jez · 15 Aug 2013 at 22:09

I am not even going to open it, i couldn't care less and dont buy into any of it. I was joking and answered your question where you can indeed install a double faceplate

bledd · 15 Aug 2013 at 22:14

How much wiggle room does the existing cable have?

I'd tie 2x new cables together at one end, then tie them to the existing cable that's in the wall and pull them through.

hughythomas · 15 Aug 2013 at 22:58

Jez said:
I am not even going to open it, i couldn't care less and dont buy into any of it. I was joking and answered your question where you can indeed install a double faceplate

You don't buy into any of it? What an incredible statement!

Are you able to please supply the wealth of research and/or evidence (preferably peer-reviewed) that you have drawn upon in order to show us factually how you reached such a conclusion? I am eager to be enlightened by your wisdom Sir!

Provision of this will surely remove any doubt in my mind that the last two years of extensive research into this topic (by myself and others) has been fruitless and not worth the time!

If only I had known back then that I could have come onto the Overclockers UK forum and heard it first-hand from 'Jez' that there is nothing to fear and its all a massive hoax.

Thought I'd leave you guys with this quote from Aristotle:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without necessarily agreeing with it"

How educated do you feel?

hughythomas · 15 Aug 2013 at 22:59

bledd. said:
How much wiggle room does the existing cable have?

I'd tie 2x new cables together at one end, then tie them to the existing cable that's in the wall and pull them through.

Its cool man I've got a dude coming over to do the building work as I am keen to get a new socket in another room for my dad coming from the same point downstairs.

I thank you all (especially Jez) for your contributions xoxo

Rroff · 16 Aug 2013 at 02:15

hughythomas said:
But yer keep using your Microwave oven

Microwave = non ionising radiation its literally impossible for food cooked in one to cause mutation from contact or consumption. If the radiation leakage from a microwave was significant enough to cause any long term effects due to the nature of how it works under those circumstances the fluid in your eyes would boil within a meter or so of it.

WiFi is a more complicated story as long term close proximity to a transmitter could potentially impact on health depending on a number of factors.

Jez · 16 Aug 2013 at 07:57

I know nothing about this, nor do i care at all about it, but surely a mobile telephone held to your head or even just walking around any urban area (such as Reigate!) exposes you to loads of this radiation due to the fact that Reigate has strong cell and wifi coverage?

London must be even worse, cell coverage is very strong everywhere, as is wifi coverage.

Good luck with your builders anyway, regardless of the wifi situation a proper cable run is far better anyway

hughythomas · 16 Aug 2013 at 13:14

Rroff said:
Microwave = non ionising radiation its literally impossible for food cooked in one to cause mutation from contact or consumption. If the radiation leakage from a microwave was significant enough to cause any long term effects due to the nature of how it works under those circumstances the fluid in your eyes would boil within a meter or so of it.

WiFi is a more complicated story as long term close proximity to a transmitter could potentially impact on health depending on a number of factors.

Again I would urge you to look more carefully into this dude:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/18/microwave-hazards.aspx

There have been several studies performed by independent organisations and/or groups of scientists collecting empirical data on the safety of Microwave ovens and when you actually bother to read through this wealth of data it paints a very different picture to that which you have described.

Saying this my parents still have one (not that I'm hugely happy about it!) but there you go!

No worries Jez my response was a little hot headed I was a few pints down by that point haha

Dr Mercola is fantastic - check out his videos on Youtube as well.

Peace all and thanks for the replies

Rroff · 16 Aug 2013 at 16:59

hughythomas said:
Again I would urge you to look more carefully into this dude:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/18/microwave-hazards.aspx

There have been several studies performed by independent organisations and/or groups of scientists collecting empirical data on the safety of Microwave ovens and when you actually bother to read through this wealth of data it paints a very different picture to that which you have described.

Saying this my parents still have one (not that I'm hugely happy about it!) but there you go!

No worries Jez my response was a little hot headed I was a few pints down by that point haha

Dr Mercola is fantastic - check out his videos on Youtube as well.

Peace all and thanks for the replies

Most of the information in that link is deeply flawed, while based on real data its extrapolated and incorrectly applied. Unless your running you microwave for several hours a day, everyday, while standing in extremely close proximity the stuff about leukemia and the heart, etc. are irrelevant - yes it can have that effect but not within the parameters of normal useage patterns. (If your one of those people that stands and watches the microwave doing its thing from close range I'd reccomend not doing more than approx. 20minutes in any 24 hours).

Likewise the stuff about toxins leaching from packaging - while correct most stuff thats approved for microwave cooking won't suffer from this so its somewhat arbitary unless you ignore the guidelines.