Possible Upgrade options

[Gazz99]

Hello all

I’m after some advice if possible. I’m hoping to upgrade my son’s PC for Christmas, I think a gpu/cpu upgrade is what he needs. He mostly plays DayZ,Hell let loose and World of Warcraft. His friends play other games like cyberpunk/pubg, but he thinks his PC will struggle as he plays medium settings on his current games and get’s issues . Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Sadly a new PC isn’t possible. Cheers guys

Gigabyte a320m-h am4 motherboard
WD Green 480gb m.2 internal ssd
32gb ram Corsair
Msi gforce gtx 1660 super vented xs 6gb
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 am4 cpu
Aero cool cyclon 600w psu
Eg rub 3 x fan set
Also added Samsung 1T of ssd

 

[Gazz99]

6750 XT would be around twice as fast on average and costs ~£300.

What is your budget?

Thx for the reply,around £400

 

[Gazz99]

You could add a Ryzen 5600 to the 6750 XT I suggested (or a Ryzen 5700X/5800X, though I think likely to be outside of your budget).

You can check TPU's database for the improvement to the GPU here (about half way down the page there's a little bar chart), this video tells you something for the CPU:

With a 2080 Super, probably not, though it depends on the resolution and the specific games that you play. E.g. MMOs at 1080p? Yes. Single player games at 4K? Not so much. If you get a card a lot faster than the 2080 Super it would be highly recommended.

I could push it to £500 if I would make a considerable difference to his gaming….thx again pal

 

[Gazz99]

@Gazz99
this is the best you will do for £400, update the bios to be able to take the cracking 5700x3d, and the 8GB 3050 is better than the 6GB 1660 super, both use a single 8 pin power connector, so that is an easy swap out/in
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-01799) = £194.99
• 1 x MSI GeForce RTX 3050 VENTUS 2X XS OC 8GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-MSI-03207) = £204.99

Total: £399.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Brill I’ll take a look, thank you m8

 

[Gazz99]

You would be wise to get a decent PSU if you upgrade your GPU as the Aero cool cyclon 600w is a budget unit and a GPU like the 6750xt will push it hard.

I’ll look into,cheers buddy

 

[Gazz99]

It is hard to say for sure, because it partly depends on where the demand is on the CPU versus GPU for the games he will play and what the monitor is.

For example: a 7800 XT (~£400) and a 5600 (~£100) would be great for 1440p with graphically demanding games.

Whereas, I suspect a game like World of Warcraft (..especially at 1080p) would be better off with a 6750 XT (~£300) and a 5700X3D (~£200).

This video is not related to the parts you will buy, BUT it gives a good indication about the pros/cons, because the decision you have to make is pretty similar in nature:

It’s not an easy decision with my limited knowledge lol, the more I research the more confused I get ha,so many different combo’s ‍…..I managed to get a great deal (John pie) on a Samsung 49” qled curved monitor a while back for him. He plays mostly DayZ at the moment and that is at 1080. Appreciate the help

 

[Gazz99]

I’ll look into,cheers buddy

I actually just looked at my old pc it has a Corsair HX1000W, over 15 years old tho lol….would this be still viable? Cheers

 

[Gazz99]

It’s set in 3840x1080x32 full screen , looks ok other than the obvious gfx issue with distance etc

 

[Gazz99]

Gpu most expensive part of a build. I'd go more expensive gpu and save up for cpu later...if monitor is hi res ultrawide, playing at native will be less demanding on cpu, more on gpu.
If goung cpu, pick one up 2nd hand, not new
Can with gpu also. Say a nice 7800xt for £320 on mktplace recently

I wasn’t aware you could buy second hand CPU’s for some reason lol….ill look now,thx pal

 

[Gazz99]

A 6750 XT and Ryzen 5600 would be fine at that resolution, but personally I'd prioritise the graphics card, even if it meant not buying a new CPU. Though, if he spends a lot of time playing WoW, WoW likes the X3D CPUs a lot.

He’s playing mostly FPShooters atm mainly DayZ,I’ll check on market place now

 

[Gazz99]

Keep in mind that used cards may have a dubious warranty, or no warranty at all and I don't know what buyer protection policies are present there.

Will do pal,unless it’s a good bargain id prefer new tbh

 

[Gazz99]

A 6750 XT and Ryzen 5600 would be fine at that resolution, but personally I'd prioritise the graphics card, even if it meant not buying a new CPU. Though, if he spends a lot of time playing WoW, WoW likes the X3D CPUs a lot.

So far pal I’m looking at the 6750 XT paired with the Ryzen 5700X3D and maybe the MSI-b550-A Motherboard ATX which is going cheap currently. It has 2 more slots for extra ram, he has 2x8gb spare….I hoping this would be a noticeable upgrade for him? ….cheers

MSI B550-A PRO Motherboard ATX​

 

[Gazz99]

I wouldn't bother. You would get a lot more performance from e.g. swapping the 6750 XT with a 7800 XT, than putting another ~£100 into the motherboard and you might need that money to replace your PSU if it doesn't like your upgrades.

Ok pal, I’ll go with that… would my old Corsair HX1000W psu(over 10 years) still be ok?. Thank you for the help

 

[Gazz99]

@Gazz99
No, no, no, the whole point of getting the am4 5700x3d, is that your son already has an AM4 motherboard, literally all you have to do is update the BIOS to the most recent, so it can definately take the 5700x3d, and just drop the cpu in there, job done!
Don't worry about ram mate, the 32GB he has is fine for the games that he played, I only had 16GB, and made it to the top slot in PUBG (survivor, )season 5, if you ever find that you need more ram, because of modding a game or what not, just buy a 64GB kit then, x2 32 GB ddr4 matched kit, save the money you would have spent on the new motherboard, and put that towards more ram later or a better gpu the now

Ok pal brill makes sense,much appreciated