Power Bank advice please

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 10:48

*Rookie question warning*

I'm after a power bank for my vape, they sell an official one for £25:

Zeus Charge - Portable Power Bank

The Zeus Charge is the most convenient way to power your vaporizer when you are away from an energy source. Featuring 5000mAh of power and a portable design the Zeus Charge is compatible with most USB charging vaporizers. It is also designed to fit inside the Zeus Armor Case. Warranty: 1 Year...

thejuicyjoint.co.uk

It is 5000mAh. On Amazon there are loads with larger capacity for cheaper, and some have 20W PD which would be useful for my phone too. However, I am concerned they may negatively impact battery life.

I'm struggling to find details on the battery, but the vape is a Zeus Arc GTS, it has a 3500mAh capacity and a micro USB charge port. I currently charge it using a USB A 5V/2.4A charger port, this works fine.

Would I be fine just buying any power bank, or do I need to consider specific specs etc? Should I just get their official one?

Thanks

Werewolf · 14 May 2023 at 10:53

Any power bank should be fine tbh, the vape should limit the rate at which it charges to what it can safely cope with the same way it does when you plug it into a wall charger.

Personally something like an Anker power bank should be fine (10,000ma for £18 at the moment).

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 10:59

Thanks Werewolf, that makes sense

I just had concerns as my older vape pens eventually lose charge etc, and this one was over 2 bills so wanted to avoid the same fate

Cheers

dlockers · 14 May 2023 at 11:00

Get a decent branded one to guarantee reasonable quality batteries e.g. Anker.

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 11:08

Thanks, will do.

Am I right in thinking a 10,000mAh power bank will be able to charge my vape (3,500) and phone (4,300) fully, once each? Or is it not such a direct correlation?

dlockers · 14 May 2023 at 11:09

NVP said:
Thanks, will do.

Am I right in thinking a 10,000mAh power bank will be able to charge my vape (3,500) and phone (4,300) fully, once each? Or is it not such a direct correlation?

Roughly right but I wouldn't overindex on it - just broad man maths. They weigh quite a bit as you go into the higher ranges so don't expect to carry it in your pocket.

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 11:12

OK cool, thank you and noted

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 11:24

OK, don't shout at me, but I have another Q...

There is only one output on this Anker model I'm looking at, but it utilises:

"Anker's exclusive PowerIQ and VoltageBoost technology combine to detect and deliver a tailored charge up to 12W, while the trickle-charging mode is the best way to charge low-power devices."

Is that trustworthy to provide the correct output all the time, or should I look for one which has two separate outputs (like my car charger)? Am I overthinking this? Do I have a problem? I think I need to lie down...

Efour · 14 May 2023 at 11:43

That's iPhone speak.

It won't be a problem nothings gonna explode but your phone won't charge very fast .

NVP · 14 May 2023 at 11:52

Thanks

cjgardens · 14 May 2023 at 19:26

I've got 2 Anker battery packs. Can't go wrong with them.

Think I've had one 8 years or more. Still working well the odd time I use it.

dlockers · 14 May 2023 at 22:46

NVP said:
OK, don't shout at me, but I have another Q...

There is only one output on this Anker model I'm looking at, but it utilises:

"Anker's exclusive PowerIQ and VoltageBoost technology combine to detect and deliver a tailored charge up to 12W, while the trickle-charging mode is the best way to charge low-power devices."

Is that trustworthy to provide the correct output all the time, or should I look for one which has two separate outputs (like my car charger)? Am I overthinking this? Do I have a problem? I think I need to lie down...

In the old world of electrics it was almost like the power was forced down the cable. These modern devices communicate and hand shake the right amount - hence mentions of PowerIQ/ PPS/ PD etc...

For an e-cig, it'll suck what it can, and the device will provide up to 5v 2.4amp or something.

subbytna · 15 May 2023 at 15:25

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10k mAh and will do 22.5W Quick charge

you get 3 free cables with it too (iPhone, USB C and Micro USB)

darael · 15 May 2023 at 16:30

I recently bought a 25,000mAh powerbank made by INIU purely because of the 65w output and it charges my phone less times than my older 21,000mAh powerbank.

dlockers · 15 May 2023 at 17:15

darael said:
I recently bought a 25,000mAh powerbank made by INIU purely because of the 65w output and it charges my phone less times than my older 21,000mAh powerbank.

It's because the power is moving quicker which uses energy

darael · 15 May 2023 at 18:47

dLockers said:
It's because the power is moving quicker which uses energy

I'd normally agree, but I get the same results using the USB A ports which charge at the same rate as my old powerbank. I know it's charging at the same rate as I use USB cables which have a display built in that show you the current going through them.

Efour · 15 May 2023 at 19:14

Realistically it's because the numbers Mose manufacturers quote you for capacity are pure BS

mattyprice4004 · 15 May 2023 at 19:20

dLockers said:
It's because the power is moving quicker which uses energy

It’s the same end result, so shouldn’t affect number of charges.
In reality it’s because manufacturers of these cheap power banks fudge the numbers to an insane degree.

flea.rider · 15 May 2023 at 19:22

picked this up for my bbq .. works perfect .. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09J145MSX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

darael · 15 May 2023 at 19:24

mattyprice4004 said:
It’s the same end result, so shouldn’t affect number of charges.
In reality it’s because manufacturers of these cheap power banks fudge the numbers to an insane degree.

I wouldn't mind, but at ~£45 it wasn't cheap in my opinion. I thought I'd be able to expect a decent powerbank at that price - apparently not.