Predator killer of killers

checjb said:
I didn't really feel that too much...with the exception of the final scene where the Predator guards are doing their Raiders bit and the camera angle is up high and behind them. I honestly thought they were doing some sort of funky dance moves. It was very bizarre.
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Yeah that part was really bad. Like they've got gout.

Gray2233 said:
It came across like rendering stutter to me, maybe a budget problem and unable to redo? It only seemed to happen noticeably at a handful of points.
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To me it looked "wrong" from the offset, it really felt to me like there was almost no motion blur and movements that should have been a bit distorted due to blur looked very sharp. Just odd to watch.
 
Good addition to the predator franchise imo. Agree with that very strange 'walk' near the end, not sure what happened with that section, as overall the animation was decent.
 
The choppy style I guess was popularised by the Spiderman animation films, whatever they were called. Quick tip: you can use Lossless Scaling to frame gen and smooth it out. I tried it (24 to 72 fps) and it worked!
 
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I was a little put off by the janky stuttering animation but really enjoyed it. I guess it's their idea of styling it, but not my cup of tea in terms of animation.
 
I don't really know any Predator lore, but I thought if somebody beat one of them they let them go (as per Predator 2)? This film makes them not just interstellar bullies, but ******** with it :cry: .
 
Torquar said:
I don't really know any Predator lore, but I thought if somebody beat one of them they let them go (as per Predator 2)? This film makes them not just interstellar bullies, but ******** with it :cry: .
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The initial lore didn't really apply that, but there's no direct standard outside of the handful of novels. I read a lot of the Dark Horse novelisations of AvP in my now distant youth back in the 90's, they were basically an "honour" functioning society. They'd never use technology that would give them an impossible advantage, and "hunted" for mating rights (the females were much larger and ran the show on their homeworlds, humans were considered the greatest prey and they trained against xenomorph (aka aliens), actually had to kill one to become "blooded" before they'd even be considered part of the clan.

The current direction seems to be that there's multiple clans who may or may not be nomadic, I'm iffy with how things have went since "Predators" in a lore/story sense but I'm open to it if it's done right.
 
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Torquar said:
I don't really know any Predator lore, but I thought if somebody beat one of them they let them go (as per Predator 2)? This film makes them not just interstellar bullies, but ******** with it :cry: .
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Yes.
The reference to Prey at the end was disturbing, since I really liked that film and didn't appreciate the alteration to the ending.
 
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Watched it today and thought it was meh, didn't think it was that great and the Bullet episode was definitely the worst, at least the other 2 were warriors
 
Gray2233 said:
They'd never use technology that would give them an impossible advantage
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And yet in films they're always depicted as immediately open their hunts by using technology that renders them almost entirely invisible in most situations, and weapons that massively outclass and outperform anything of equivalent classification on this planet... I've never really liked EU and fanfic type stuff, for this very reason.
 
ttaskmaster said:
And yet in films they're always depicted as immediately open their hunts by using technology that renders them almost entirely invisible in most situations, and weapons that massively outclass and outperform anything of equivalent classification on this planet... I've never really liked EU and fanfic type stuff, for this very reason.
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Aye, but it wasn't ultimately an impossible advantage.

What I mean by that is, it was never something that couldn't be overcome, they were looking to deal with the absolute elite among the target species for whatever reason. The logic is a little dodgy obviously, but at the same time they could have easily destroyed the entire planet from orbit to go to the extreme, or covered themselves in armour impervious to pretty much anything a human of whatever period could use.

I think it's meant to mirror the ridiculousness of old school big game hunters using ridiculous guns to take down elephants and tigers etc and then celebrating themselves as heroes with trophies.
 
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Maundie said:
Watched it today and thought it was meh, didn't think it was that great and the Bullet episode was definitely the worst, at least the other 2 were warriors
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Had to have an American hero in there. They should've just used Superman the way he pulled himself inside an aircraft while hanging onto the cockpit in flight.
 
Gray2233 said:
Aye, but it wasn't ultimately an impossible advantage.
What I mean by that is, it was never something that couldn't be overcome, they were looking to deal with the absolute elite among the target species for whatever reason.
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In the first film, the advantages were indeed impossible until Pred actually took off his kit to deliberately level the playing field against Essentially-Naked Arnie.
In the second, the negation of those advantages was purely down to contrived coincidences, chances and blind luck, mostly using Pred's own kit against him.
 
ttaskmaster said:
In the first film, the advantages were indeed impossible until Pred actually took off his kit to deliberately level the playing field against Essentially-Naked Arnie.
In the second, the negation of those advantages was purely down to contrived coincidences, chances and blind luck, mostly using Pred's own kit against him.
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I actually forgot about this!

That's where some of the problems do rest, it's not impossible it's just unlikely (a bit like an old school trophy hunter shooting a lion). That said, you also had elements where the Predator wouldn't engage non combatants (at least in the second movie). Children, the unarmed, non-aggressive etc it more or less seemed to leave alone and that was mirrored in the books/comics.

It's a good idea with a messy execution ultimately, I try not to overthink it and enjoy the ride when it comes to Predator.
 
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