Pretty horrific train crash in Scotland, 3 dead

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https://news.sky.com/story/train-derails-in-aberdeenshire-emergency-services-at-the-scene-12047701

Surprised nobodies talking about this, 2020 just keeps on giving the only fortunate turn of events in this crash is that Aberdeen was in lockdown so very people on the train, but from the aerial footage it looks like it came off on the bridge and the rear of the train is the car we see still on the tracks.

Sad that 3 people died thought but why were they running trains after such torrential rain last night ?
 
Minusorange said:
why were they running trains after such torrential rain last night ?
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Unless they had a good reason to suspect the rain had caused damage to the tracks, it's more a question of why wouldn't they?

If trains had to stop running every time there was a storm, people would be fuming. People get upset enough if they don't run when there are snow drifts blocking the tracks.

It's all easily questioned in hindsight but unfortunately, whatever lessons are learnt, it's too late for the poor people involved that have lost lives or become seriously injured :(
 
Am I right in thinking this is the first major derailment since Hatfield in 2000?

As I understand from what I've read, the train was on it's way back to a previous station having already encountered a land-slide further up the line when it hit the 2nd slide, previously clear line.
 
Resident said:
Am I right in thinking this is the first major derailment since Hatfield in 2000?

As I understand from what I've read, the train was on it's way back to a previous station having already encountered a land-slide further up the line when it hit the 2nd slide, previously clear line.
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They're saying the train stopped after finding it's path blocked by flooding/landslide on a portion of double track. They backed the train up to the previous set of points and then continued again South on the other tracks. From the original video (shows the blocked track under a bridge) and subsequent photos of the crash it doesn't look like it was the same point, but it's hard to say because the derailed train looks to have continued a reasonable distance before coming down the embankment.
 
Stonehaven has numbers of river carron bank that went burst and flooding and landslip.. this train was stopped and head back to Stonehaven but too late as it was hit 2nd landslip by didnt see the track bend.. wonder why the train allow to leave Aberdeen in bad storm weather, should be cancelled. Terrible accident. That remind me of 1984 Polmomt push-pull train accident which hit stray cow and killed 13 people..
 
Resident said:
Am I right in thinking this is the first major derailment since Hatfield in 2000?
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Great Heck, 2001. Although that was more of a collision that lead to derailment.

Weirdly, one of the units was involved in both accidents.

Edit: as below, potters bar is more recent and there was another on the WCML in 2004. Croydon tram derailment too recently.
 
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TheVoice said:
Potters Bar was 2002 I think.

Rather worrying that the emergency services were seemingly only notified some 3 hours later, BTP said they were informed around 0940.
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Nah, train left Aberdeen at 0640 or something - would have been held up with the initial stop and shuffling back and forth if that was what happened.

It's strange, it definitely looks like the train was heading North again as the aerial photos show what I assume to be River Carron on that side.
 
Jokester said:
They're saying the train stopped after finding it's path blocked by flooding/landslide on a portion of double track. They backed the train up to the previous set of points and then continued again South on the other tracks. From the original video (shows the blocked track under a bridge) and subsequent photos of the crash it doesn't look like it was the same point, but it's hard to say because the derailed train looks to have continued a reasonable distance before coming down the embankment.
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Seems like it came off at an angle on the bridge from the damage to the guard rails and brickwork but the rails look fine on the bridge so presume it's just out of shot to bottom of this image where the track issue was

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The engine still on the tracks is the rear of the train, I'm guessing here that the carriage off the embankment was at the front just behind the engine which is just below it in the trees and the others just piled up, must have had some energy behind it for the rear engine to keep going that far over the bridge with pile up infront
 
Minusorange said:
Seems like it came off at an angle on the bridge from the damage to the guard rails and brickwork but the rails look fine on the bridge so presume it's just out of shot to bottom of this image where the track issue was

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The engine still on the tracks is the rear of the train, I'm guessing here that the carriage off the embankment was at the front just behind the engine which is just below it in the trees and the others just piled up, must have had some energy behind it for the rear engine to keep going that far over the bridge with pile up infront
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've found the spot now, due to the inaccessibilty of it to emergency services. Would have been heading South. The engine is down the embankment in the trees as you say, bottom left of the that image (you can just about make it out in the BBC video).

Edit: I'm still not convinced of the direction.
 
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