Pretty horrific train crash in Scotland, 3 dead

Jokester said:
Yup, but spin that round 180degrees and it pretty much looks the same. The only deciding thing is the direction of the river flow in the background (Carron Water goes North), in the BBC video it's flowing the direction of the train travel.
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If you spin it 180 the curve of the stream/river doesn't match
 
Jokester said:
Nah, it was definitely heading North, the shadows in the BBC video would be on the east side of the train at that time of day which indicates it was turned around again.
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I guess I misunderstood what you said about flipping the image 180, what I said about the river was meaning that it could only be travelling North back to Stonehaven because if you flipped the image, the curve of the river would never be able to align with the river on maps
 
Minusorange said:
Seems like it came off at an angle on the bridge from the damage to the guard rails and brickwork but the rails look fine on the bridge so presume it's just out of shot to bottom of this image where the track issue was

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The engine still on the tracks is the rear of the train, I'm guessing here that the carriage off the embankment was at the front just behind the engine which is just below it in the trees and the others just piled up, must have had some energy behind it for the rear engine to keep going that far over the bridge with pile up infront
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Holy ****, that looks horrendous.
 
Looks like there was a landslide just before the bridge

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It's interesting how the rear engine has managed to stay on tracks considering all others have come off and it would have gone over the same bit of landslide as everything else. I wonder how fast it was going and why the driver didn't spot it on his way South unless it just sadly happened seconds before he reached it on his way back North
 
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Minusorange said:
I wonder how fast it was going and why the driver didn't spot it on his way South unless it just sadly happened seconds before he reached it on his way back North
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Murmurrings the train was doing 50mph at the time - the track here is apparently on a slope and trains need a "run up" of 60mph to make sure they make it up the hill at a reasonable speed.

Also, the rear engine is off the tracks as well.
 
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Sounds like it was an unavoidable tragedy then, especially if it's found the landslide happened moments before the driver reached it or he couldn't see it until it was too late due to the bend of the track

There's some new info detailing most of what we already know but also which carriage is which, the one that is crushed is actually the 1st and the 3rd is the one down the embankment near the engine

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/passenger-train-derailment-near-carmont-aberdeenshire
 
Sounds like it was an unavoidable tragedy then, especially if it's found the landslide happened moments before the driver reached it or he couldn't see it until it was too late due to the bend of the track

There's some new info detailing most of what we already know but also which carriage is which, the one that is crushed is actually the 1st and the 3rd is the one down the embankment near the engine

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/passenger-train-derailment-near-carmont-aberdeenshire
 
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