Programmers?

slylittlefox said:
Ah okay fair enough - seem to remember watching a vid of building an iPhone app in windows, must have been a Mac :)
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Yeah Iphone Programming is Mac OS x only. If you ever want to get into it, try pick up a cheap Mac Mini from somewhere, even an old one will run X Code fine!

~J~ said:
Win Mobile programmer here :)

Been doing iPhone programming for a few months too, although it's quite a challange, harder than I thought (not the language, the API).
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Ahh Win Mobile, my nemisis! I do work for Sony Ericsson who asked me to embark on doing some work on the X1 phone, however they thankfully pulled the plug.

iPhone stuff is pretty easy when you find an example to help you, but there aren't many out there other than through the ADC. Quite a good Apress book out now, it's got a grapefruit on the front!
 
numnutz said:
Ahh Win Mobile, my nemisis! I do work for Sony Ericsson who asked me to embark on doing some work on the X1 phone, however they thankfully pulled the plug.

iPhone stuff is pretty easy when you find an example to help you, but there aren't many out there other than through the ADC. Quite a good Apress book out now, it's got a grapefruit on the front!
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My main problem with Win Mobile programming isn't the programming as such, it's .Net (mostly) so it's almost a direct conversion from Windows to Win Mobile.

But it's screen estate that I fail miserably on. Had a recent project that was just a simple inventory catalogue with grouped datagrid that worked fine on a desktop screen but having to think how to design the layout on a screen that's 240x320 had me going bonkers. :p

Totally agree with the iPhone development though, even though the NDA has gone, there still seems a lot of iPhone developers that aren't willing to share their methods and most books seem to assume you know the API.
 
I spend most of my time scripting in Perl to be honest, after that probably C++ / Java, and the "maths" languages like MATLAB and R. I get paid crap money (27K) but I do enjoy it most of the time.

EDIT: The idea of tutorials given by us sounds like a good'en would help out on R and Perl (perhaps MATLAB and Java too)
 
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~J~ said:
My main problem with Win Mobile programming isn't the programming as such, it's .Net (mostly) so it's almost a direct conversion from Windows to Win Mobile.
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But then you go on to explain exactly why its so different! Programming isn't just typing in the code, its also coming up with a solution that works... and in most cases, a desktop solution won't convert to mobile.

The two reasons why I like mobile programming is it keeps you sharp (code has to be efficient and memory used wisely) and you have the challenge of dealing with a small screen and coming up with ideas to overcome it :)
 
I'm a C# .NET developer. Been doing it for about 3 1/2 years. My old job was Winforms and Windows Services, and my new job is as a web developer (ASP .NET). We use MSSQL for our databases, so I'd say my skillset is C#, VB.NET (some legacy stuff), T-SQL and Javascript. I obviously know HTML and CSS too (for the web side of my job).
 
Okay, the list :)

HTML
CSS
DHTML
XHTML
PHP/MYSQL
JAVASCRIPT
JAVA APPLET
PERL
C++
VB
RUBY
IPTSCRAE
 
Well I have played around with:

C
Java
C++
Haskell,
Prolog,
Assembly,
HTML,
Just starting JSP

and I think that is it at the moment . . . . been a busy 2 years learning that lot
 
I'm an I.T. student struggling to get to grips with Java - I've no intention of becoming a programmer as I plainly don't have the talent for it, just need to get my act together and improve my current negligible skills to get through this course...
 
wozzizname said:
I'm an I.T. student struggling to get to grips with Java - I've no intention of becoming a programmer as I plainly don't have the talent for it, just need to get my act together and improve my current negligible skills to get through this course...
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Mate, I was like that too. Hated my course and never really bothered to go to the lectures or do the work. Java is a bugger if you dont know what is going on and there is a lot to go wrong. It can seem an absolute nightmare.

I pretty much flunked my degree because I didnt like it at all. I still got a job programming after uni and I love it. The reason I love it is because I work hard at it and you do understand after a while and its very rewarding. If you are working your **** off and still not understanding then go to the lecturer for help but I think the main thing is to just practice and you will get a lot better.
 
"In the real world" is also very different from within a class room/lecture hall/IT lab. I can't compare first hand, because I didn't go to Uni or even college, but from what my colleagues and friends tell me, it's so different it's almost a waste of time - but they do point out there are valuable things to learn, even if they never get used directly outside of education it's still worthwhile learning about the nuts and bolts of programming like memory pointers and references, floating point calculation and compensation etc.
 
Was taught some Haskell a while ago and hated it. I think it's a language designed more for mathematicians obsessed with how "elegant" things are rather than for programmers who just want to get some work done :p.

Mostly use Java, Python or C these days and have no regrets!
 
jeffmango said:
Was taught some Haskell a while ago and hated it. I think it's a language designed more for mathematicians obsessed with how "elegant" things are rather than for programmers who just want to get some work done :p.

Mostly use Java, Python or C these days and have no regrets!
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pffft, real computer scientists are mathematicians.

Haskell has a empesis on what you acutally want(Expressions), rather than how do it(Lists of statements) and a lot less state. If haskell kicked off there would be a lot less bugs in code.
 
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