Prohibited U Turn?

Joshy

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Joy of joys I've got a PCN from Hammersmith and Fulham council for a 'prohibited U Turn' :(. Wanting to know if it is worth fighting or not?


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I turned where that white escort is. I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that I when into the junction you can see on the right a tad and then reserved back onto the main road and carried on

If I'm blatantly in the wrong I'll put my hands up and admit that I didn't know that doing a U Turn in that situation was wrong. I always thought there would be signage.

Speaking of signage, apprentice there was a no U-Turn sign on the road/junction that I may/may not have gone into slightly

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Maybe that is what they are talking about (and if so would I have affected me considering that I did the manoeuvre well before the sign)?

Worth fighting or not? I'll swallow it if I have to but it seems a bit unfair

Thanks :).
 
I'd have thought the no U turn sign meant this:
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The problem if you went into that lane to complete your U turn would have meant you'd be on the wrong side of the keep left bollard.
 
Trifid said:
The problem if you went into that lane to complete your U turn would have meant you'd be on the wrong side of the keep left bollard.
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To be completely honest, I do think I was on the wrong side of the bollard, but does that really matter considering that what the PCN is for is for a completely different offence?

Another question - If I had completed the Turn 100% on the main road would it that have been illegal without a no U turn sign?

I am 99.99999% sure that there wasn't a 'No U Turn' sign on the main road (which is the location of the PCN), which makes me think that the sign on the 'private' road of the junction I turned into slightly (it'd have been ever so slightly) a bit redundant.

Is there any other situation (baring an obvious sign) where doing a U Turn is 'Prohibited'?
 
If it was me I'd try to fight it in the normal way, The worst that can happen is you still have to pay the fine but at a later date.
 
Joshy said:
To be completely honest, I do think I was on the wrong side of the bollard, but does that really matter considering that what the PCN is for is for a completely different offence?

Another question - If I had completed the Turn 100% on the main road would it that have been illegal without a no U turn sign?

I am 99.99999% sure that there wasn't a 'No U Turn' sign on the main road (which is the location of the PCN), which makes me think that the sign on the 'private' road of the junction I turned into slightly (it'd have been ever so slightly) a bit redundant.

Is there any other situation (baring an obvious sign) where doing a U Turn is 'Prohibited'?
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Todays telegraph tells of a guy who did a U-turn but entered a bus lane to complete it and got penalised for that.

Andi.
 
The PCN is issued under LLATLA 2003 and many Councils get the payment and appeals periods defined incorrectly on their PCNs as the the Act of 2003 defines the payment period and the appeals period differently. Can't recall if H&F have this issue off the top of my head.

Scan and post up all sides of the PCN with VRN and PCN number redacted and I'll let you know if you have an appeal on the paper alone.
 
Mikeyboy said:
I know where that is, there is a no U-Turn sign just after you pass under the Westway, and applies all the way down to the next set of lights.

You can just see them here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&s...MZju4k7Lge7ATSiwdPzVRQ&cbp=12,337.64,,0,13.81

Unlucky. I've U-turned there a few times, but never got a ticket.
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Oh that sucks.

How am I supposed to know that one sign is supposed to cover an entire road!? :mad:

Cheers for that though.

Unless the clever loophole blokes can get them on paperwork it looks like I've got to get the wallet out :(.
 
Appeal it.

Councils are generally very good in most circumanstances and if you lose you may still be able to take it further and win.

It may be that the person looking at the "infractions" tossed a coin and decided you were in the wrong.
 
aproctor said:
Appeal it.

Councils are generally very good in most circumanstances
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Waste of time.

Councils are skint, they are out for every penny they can get - assuming they generate revenue from PCN's for illegally performed U-turns, they are going to milk that cow dry.

I have had a similar ticket after performing a u-turn to avoid a low bridge (what else could I do?) yet I still got a PCN! :(

If my recent discussions with Thurrock council are anything to go by from my own parking appeal, you have more chance of platting snot I'm afraid.

Seems the OP is bang to rights anyway?

Bloody annoying though, ******** indeed.:mad:
 
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R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
Seems the OP is bang to rights anyway?
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I don't think so? I assumed that a no U turn sign at the previous junction/traffic island was just that, for the previous junction/traffic island and not that I was entering a No U Turn 'zone' where offenders would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law :p.
 
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