Project E39 Revival

Also the v8 have recirculating ball steering rather than a steering rack, which some say makes it a bit woolly, it can do in normal mode but the M5 has a sport mode which firms it up and gives a much more improved feel, however on a straight motorway cruise its kind of irrelevant anyway. I've never driven an i6 e39 version so can't say how worse it is if any.
 
beermonster said:
Looking very nice, i like the carbon with that interior colour, breaks it up nicely. Are you planning on dechroming the windows at all, I think they look much more modern without it.
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Thanks - I am awaiting delivery of some PlastiDip for dechroming the external chrome trim. They are having stock issues at the moment which is a pain, I want rid of the chrome already! lol

Liampope said:
Looking good. It's amazing what facelift lights, sports bumpers, decent wheels and a de-chrome do to the E39 looks. I'd probably go so far as to say timeless. Has your opinion of the Ebay-special bumper remained high through fitting, etc?
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The front bumper is 'ok'.. it's obviously not going to be an OEM quality fit but on the whole the fitment isn't too bad, only a very small shortage either side of the wing but I feel that a heat gun can sort this out :) I had best not talk too soon, as I still need to fit the rear bumper!

Cristian said:
I can't help noticing the passengers side wing and bonnet do not line up properly. But apart from that it does like it just rolled out of the factory, amazing for a design that is a few years old.
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I haven't installed the bonnet catches yet so that could be why - the bonnet isn't fully closed. Either that or it'll be due to the fact that the front end was knocked when I crashed ever so slightly. But not enough (in my opinion) to write the car off. If it happens to be something other than the bonnet catches not being fitted, I'm still happy with the final result and I don't think you'd notice unless you were really looking :)
 
MrLOL said:
looks like its coming along nicely.

Looking forward to some pictures of the finished article.
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Thank you mate. I plan on installing an android galaxy tablet in place of the stock head unit and routing that to a nice ICE install. Another good thing with the tablet is that you can connect it to your OBD2 EMS port via bluetooth and display real-time data such as MPG/Speed/Various temps/0-60 times etc. Navigation, Skype, films and all that jazz :) I shall keep this thread updated, but this won't be for a while yet lol
 
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He will have an OBD2 port and an OBD1 port. He may very well be able to pull out DME info from the OBD2 port if he is lucky.

OBD2 was to access a few modules, the OBD was to access everything.
 
pepsilol said:
He will have an OBD2 port and an OBD1 port. He may very well be able to pull out DME info from the OBD2 port if he is lucky.

OBD2 was to access a few modules, the OBD was to access everything.
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OBD and OBD2 are international standards - 2 is newer than 1. I think what you mean is that with one of the ports you can access BMW's properiety diagnostic system with the required tools which will as you say give you far, far more information than the basic stuff required by OBD standards.

Thing is, with a 97 car its all under the bonnet and not inside the cabin which makes integrating it with incar stuff that bit more tricky. From about 2000 onwards BMW moved to the familiarly shaped OBD2 socket fitted inside the car itself. This gives basic information out to generic readers and far more detailed access with the right kit :)
 
[TW]Fox;21720352 said:
OBD and OBD2 are international standards - 2 is newer than 1. I think what you mean is that with one of the ports you can access BMW's properiety diagnostic system with the required tools which will as you say give you far, far more information than the basic stuff required by OBD standards.

Thing is, with a 97 car its all under the bonnet and not inside the cabin which makes integrating it with incar stuff that bit more tricky. From about 2000 onwards BMW moved to the familiarly shaped OBD2 socket fitted inside the car itself. This gives basic information out to generic readers and far more detailed access with the right kit :)
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So if I was to somehow get to the OBD1 port under the bonnet, I would still be able to access the same data as I would if I had an OBD2 port? What are the limitations and differences between OBD1 and OBD2?
 
Presumably, yes. Not sure on the differences.

An Android Tablet in the dash is going to look craptastic though as it's not the right size to fill it properly and will just look blatantly aftermarket not to mention the fact its designed as a tablet not as a car audio device will be annoying as a result. Once the novelty of a cool new multifunction device wears off you want it to just work - ie, turn key drive off and instantly your radio is playing whatever it was last time without any user intervention at all.

I spent ages and ages working out what the best solution was for indash media/navigation in the E39 and 6 weeks after installing I'm still convinced I made the right choice:

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[TW]Fox;21720666 said:
Presumably, yes. Not sure on the differences.

An Android Tablet in the dash is going to look craptastic though as it's not the right size to fill it properly and will just look blatantly aftermarket not to mention the fact its designed as a tablet not as a car audio device will be annoying as a result. Once the novelty of a cool new multifunction device wears off you want it to just work - ie, turn key drive off and instantly your radio is playing whatever it was last time without any user intervention at all.

I spent ages and ages working out what the best solution was for indash media/navigation in the E39 and 6 weeks after installing I'm still convinced I made the right choice:

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Looks good.. what unit is that? I just really like the functionality of the android tablet - you can buy adapters that allow you to control the tablet from your steering wheel. Would this not allow you to turn on the radio on ignition? Even as a last resort, code an app in Java to run on boot..
 
It's a Dynavin D99. They do an Android version if you are bothered about that but I remain to be convinced its anything more than a gimmick having Android in a car. I've got DVD player etc etc and just never use it - its a car not a lounge. What i wanted was ipod, radio and excellent navigation and thats exactly what I have.
 
Small update for now.. Went to London today to pick up some new alloys. I decided on some Style 71's (mainly because I bagged a bloody good bargain!) and 17" as I am running stock non-sport suspension and didn't want the 4x4 look. I may consider suspension overhaul later on down the line, but for now, my suspension is just fine.

Here she is so far.. excuse the missing trim. (Apologies for the bad image quality - I took it on my phone, and I am no photographic genius either :p)

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Next job is to de-chrome the window trim and finish off the interior wrapping.
 
[TW]Fox;21720352 said:
OBD and OBD2 are international standards - 2 is newer than 1. I think what you mean is that with one of the ports you can access BMW's properiety diagnostic system with the required tools which will as you say give you far, far more information than the basic stuff required by OBD standards.

Thing is, with a 97 car its all under the bonnet and not inside the cabin which makes integrating it with incar stuff that bit more tricky. From about 2000 onwards BMW moved to the familiarly shaped OBD2 socket fitted inside the car itself. This gives basic information out to generic readers and far more detailed access with the right kit :)
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There was a period where BMW had OBD1 AND OBD2 in their BMWs. Saw it in an E38 couple of years ago when I helped someone setup their BMW diagnostics. We used the obd2 socked but only managed to connect to 2-3 modules. Went under the bonnet and connected to everything.

OBD1 you could access all modules in it and OBD2 you could access some modules..

If he is lucky he may have both ports and the obd2 port may give him access to some real live data.
 
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