Project: Fish n Chips
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The water is heated to 24 degrees (hence the reason I'm not water cooling the PC). The thermostat will keep the temperature at that level however hot the PC gets.
The thermostat will only stop the heater heating the water to 24 degrees. The pc will keep on heating it and you will end up with dead fish. Sorry but i am not a fan of these things. The temps will be all over the place when it should be constant. 6L is a ridiculously small amount of water and will not help at all with water stability. The larger volume of water you have the more stable the conditions (temps/nitrite/nitrate etc) will be. 13"x4.5"x8.75" is a joke. If you want to keep fish then go and buy a proper tank.
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Finaly someone with some the European animal care sense! I was shocked no one else picked up on this.
Love the animals. God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble it, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. - Dostoyevsky
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put dvdbunny in the water
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True, but he only had 3 little mollies in there - fish have to put up with much worse in fish shops, and the filter is probably overkill. Plus the water isn't going to get to a dangerous temperature level if the airflow is half-decent in the case.
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They are lyretail guppies if i am not mistaken. Tropical fish need a constant temperature of between 23 and 25 degrees although this varies between species. A tank in a computer is going to go way above that. Water is a good conductor of heat which is why watercooling exists. The inside of my case is usually a minimum of 26 degrees and that's with 5 fans. Fish tanks in a pc are a ridiculously bad idea. Probably against the cruelty to animals act as well. It is also widely accepted that a fish tanks should'nt hold less than 10lt of water. Was the tank even cycled?
Coming next. A hamster cage attached to my PC, with the hamsters wheel attached to a 200mm fan so when he runs on it, it spins the fan for xtreme cooling!
On a serious note: that looks awesome. Mr Gates could learn something from you. When did you think to do this?
On a serious note: that looks awesome. Mr Gates could learn something from you. When did you think to do this?
Thanks the replies. I've been away over the weekend and only had time to read them now.
The water was treated for 10 days before I added fish and correctly cycled. Ammonia is 0 and nitrite levels are 0.25 appoximately. Just about to do another test after this reply actually.
I appreciate the tank is small, however I did consult the aquarium shop before going ahead. I even took in a 1:1 scale cardboard model of how it would look so they would be sure. I was told I could keep a lot more fish in there but I don't intend to go above 5. According to various stock calculators the tank is big enough for fish this size. I am keeping a close eye on them and they do not seem distressed. I assure you I am a lover of all animals and if I thought this was in any way cruel I would give them a better home.
I will not be using the computer a lot (if at all now). I was going to get rid of my laptop and use this instead, however the spec isn't that great and a step down from what I'm using already.
The water was treated for 10 days before I added fish and correctly cycled. Ammonia is 0 and nitrite levels are 0.25 appoximately. Just about to do another test after this reply actually.
Joked about the idea years ago. When I saw a piece on the Overclocked Orange (and case modding as a whole) I decided to go ahead and see what was required, turned out not a lot so I did it.
I made a condensation lid that fits over the tank, all fish tanks have them to some degree.Wow that looks really good. Nice work. How are you dealing with the condensation that comes out of the tank though as that could cause a problem? :S
I'm not sure I could charge to be honest :s There's the matter of electricity and water being about 5 inches apart. I'll do a full run through as I kept a journal when I was building it.How much would you charge to make me one
Local aquarium shop made it for me. In theory it isn't too hard to make yourself but for £22 it was worth getting someone who knew what they were doing to make it.
HDD is stood upright next to the motherboard. It's worth mentioning it is on rubber feet to reduce any vibration getting to the fish tank.
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You can't be a true lover of animals if you are doing this, it is something one would see in Japan where they care nothing for fish. If a wild animal has to be taken from the wild at least give it the biggest and best home as possible. Fish do not show stress like other animals do, it's why some people think they don't feel pain.
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I am sorry if you don't think this is a good home for these fish. As I said, I was advised that these conditions were more than adequate for the fish in this tank. If I feel that the fish are becoming stressed or the water unmanageable I will re-home them. Also, if someone were to see the tank in person (because photos and videos do not make the actual size clear) and say that it were too small I would also do something about it.
I welcome comments on the project itself but I have taken note of the critique regarding the well-being of the fish and would like to leave that matter there. If the moderators of this forum think this project is in someway morally wrong then I would have no qualms in it being removed.
I welcome comments on the project itself but I have taken note of the critique regarding the well-being of the fish and would like to leave that matter there. If the moderators of this forum think this project is in someway morally wrong then I would have no qualms in it being removed.
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hahaha that is pretty awesome like
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Most people in small pet and fish shops don't really know about the animals they sell, only the basics, after all they are really only there to make money not help animals. Just as them people in small pc repair shops but with computers of course. Nothing can beat free expert independent advice. I will ask the pros on the fish care forums and I will get back to you.
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I quite agree. I was in my local tropical fish shop a couple of weeks ago and was horrified to see a couple buying a 60L tank and fish on the same day. This is totally unacceptable. The worst bit was yet to come. They asked the store owner for "something that will clean the glass". He recommended some suckermouth cats. Fair enough if they were a small species. These were'nt. They were Gibbiceps Plecs which can grow to 50cm+. I commented on this and was told to leave the shop. Fish sellers are just in it for the money.
I understand what you are saying but I have spoken to several people in this store. One guy did show some concerns about the size but didn't abject to keeping a small number of hardier fish, but would prefer I kept snails and shrimp etc. Three other guys (including the store owner) do not have any concerns and are also fish keepers themselves, not just regular sales staff. They have given me other sound advise, e.g. not keeping a Betta male with the guppies as he'll most likely kill them because of the flared tail fins.
The store in question is also one of the biggest in Europe, not a small pet shop. http://www.thegoldfishbowl.co.uk/index.php?pg=149
Stocking density calculator from Practical Fishkeeping website
We would recommend keeping up to 2"/5cm of small to medium-sized fish in your system. However, this requires care and thought for the type of fish being stocked.
The store in question is also one of the biggest in Europe, not a small pet shop. http://www.thegoldfishbowl.co.uk/index.php?pg=149
Stocking density calculator from Practical Fishkeeping website
We would recommend keeping up to 2"/5cm of small to medium-sized fish in your system. However, this requires care and thought for the type of fish being stocked.
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oh noes he is frying fish