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That's what you get with any Gsync Panel. Cheapest all the way up to the most expensive.
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Proprietary vs open standard nearly 4 years on
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That's what you get with any Gsync Panel. Cheapest all the way up to the most expensive.
You mean the guarantee of Flicker Free gaming? Gsync flickers quite badly on my GTX770 and ROG Swift.
At the end of the day, you only get the "nVidia guarantee" because you're forced to have an nVidia module in the monitor and even then it has issues as my early adopter setup showed.
Several RMAs on the monitor and trying a friends GTX970 didn't solve it with different DP cables. So I gave up on sync tech.
I now rock a Vega64 LC and have a 34GK950F panel arriving tomorrow.
A expect a much better sync experience - ie one that actually works.
I think you're looking at it wrong. Price for price - Gsync and Freesync are very comparable -- you dip below Gsync prices, and you either don't get Gsync or you get a bonus freesync (even if it has a smaller than ideal range) at no extra cost.
As for fragmentation between vendors (open vs closed) - people just want the most bang for their buck, so if they have a gsync screen they're stuck buying nVidia to take advantage and vice versa. Being open/closed doesn't have much effect when there's only 2 options..
As for fragmentation between vendors (open vs closed) - people just want the most bang for their buck, so if they have a gsync screen they're stuck buying nVidia to take advantage and vice versa. Being open/closed doesn't have much effect when there's only 2 options..
nVidia already support it on laptops. So the only "effort" would be to flip the bit in the drivers that says "disable freesync if not a laptop".
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On this point I agree. When it came to buying my monitor I had a budget of £500 ish. And I would have bought whatever monitor (Gsync or Freesync) in this price range.
Of course at this point I was waiting on Vega to launch to see if I would go AMD or Nvidia on the GPU. Heat and power issues put me off so I went nvidia.
The ROG Swift is a **** monitor all around - with my Dell S2716DG I don't think I've had any flickering with G-Sync at all (maybe very odd instance on loading screens when the framerate goes below 1 fps or whatever but I don't recall that with any recent drivers) with my ROG Swifts that would happen quite a bit - that is more Asus being **** than G-Sync IMO.
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Dell S2716DG has been a great monitor.
30hz/FPS is still 30hz/FPS. It makes my eyes bleed.
Apart from the fact it's TN and way too expensive.
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I'm happy with it. But I did upgrade from a 10 year old monitor. Which was awful!
How do you get on with your monitor?
HP OMEN 32 2560x1440 75Hz Freesync
Is your synch range up to 75Hz? Or from 75Hz?
The point is my monitor (infact any Gysync panel) will give you 30 - max fps no questions asked.
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I've used a 30 to 144 and 40 to 75 FS panels, currently using the later as its superwide. No difference between them because I'm always running 70 FPS, no frame drops outsid of either range to notice a difference.
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The main take away is it's crap you are tied to a vendor(regardless who's to blame) but both can run AS panels if you want to.
Nope, AMD do a higher max fps range than G-Sync panels, and your mates G-Sync's far from Ronseal when it's throwing up artifacts due to a panel/G-Sync bug.
Nope, AMD do a higher max fps range than G-Sync panels, and your mates G-Sync's far from Ronseal when it's throwing up artifacts due to a panel/G-Sync bug.
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Agree 100%. Had this monitor nearly 3 years now, has been great value at 450 quid and has extended the life of this 1070.
If it makes 3 years, which it should, it'll have been 150 quid a year, 12 and a half quid a month.
Back to the spirit of the OPs post, yes I think the fact that adaptive sync is an open standard is irrelevant due to nvidia's proprietary gsync module and the fact that it's a two horse race right now.
Once you've bought into variable refresh, it's hard to go back. Nobody wants to splash out on a horrendously expensive gpu AND a new monitor when they already have a variable refresh display already, and nobody wants to downgrade their experience by losing variable refresh. Factoring in that cost of a new display, regardless of what colour your gpu is, is always going to leave you thinking that you're best sticking with the team you're on, unless the performance delta is really incredibly significant and the price isn't too astronomical.
What we need, and have needed for a long time, is another major player in the gpu market. Intel? Not for a while, mates. Not seriously.
Once you've bought into variable refresh, it's hard to go back. Nobody wants to splash out on a horrendously expensive gpu AND a new monitor when they already have a variable refresh display already, and nobody wants to downgrade their experience by losing variable refresh. Factoring in that cost of a new display, regardless of what colour your gpu is, is always going to leave you thinking that you're best sticking with the team you're on, unless the performance delta is really incredibly significant and the price isn't too astronomical.
What we need, and have needed for a long time, is another major player in the gpu market. Intel? Not for a while, mates. Not seriously.
Good post and I agree, we wont be seeing Intel for a good while yet.
I believe Freesync 2 is supposed to move in the direction of Gsync, so a Freesync 2 screen will have to meet certain criteria and be certified by AMD. In doing so the price differences between the 2 systems will likely reduce significantly because only the more premium Freesync screen would meet the Freesync 2 sync range and quality criteria.
For some gaming requirements unfortunately there is little substitute for a TN and as far as TNs go it is one of the better efforts. Price wise it can be ridiculously expensive even for what it is but I got mine before the gouging and currently they are available at an almost reasonable price - for some reason the price at OcUK has hovered about £200 above what they sometimes go for elsewhere.
