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I'm gradually progressing in weight (11'8) now from 11st after 3 months gyming.

Instructor reckons I could atleast be at 12st now if I was having the optimum amount of protein.

He keeps banging on about these shakes and how I should take them

I'm quite aware it's just protein but is it? He wants to put me on this "muscle fuel" stuff which sounds a tad more than protein.

Can I harm myself in anyway taking this stuff, i'm 18 and have 3 years left of maturity?
 
I wouldn't listen to him mate. Sounds like a typical gym dude. 'Muscle Fuel' sounds like marketing rubbish, cheap decent Whey would be the way forward with a decent source of carbs. This way you can make your own shakes and know exactly what's in them. I prefer it this way, I'm not one to enjoy endless sweetners and carp in my shake.

You probably should be taking protein shakes, unless you have an endless pocket and many hours a day to prepare all your food making sure each meal has a fair share of protein in. Which I'll guess you don't, so I'd pick yourself up some whey. Check out www.myprotein.co.uk and type www.sports-nutrition.net in the price matcher and use one of the chaps here's discount code as I cba to find mine and I'm sure they will appreciate it more than me :D You're looking for the £22.93 Whey.

As to putting on a little more weight, I've always thought it was odd when people would say things like "Oh, you should be 12 stone by now". You've put on 8lbs, which I would consider good going for 3 months, quality rather than quantity is far more important.

If you don't think your progress has been great enough, and your routine is sound, then I'd look towards your diet. So supplement with the Whey to up your protein intake to around 1 to 1.5g for every 1lbs of bodyweight. I'd suggest no less than 1.5g per lb. Protein should be consumed every 2-3 hours but try and make the most of it you possibly can from decent food sources, chicken etc.

You do not want to be using this protein for energy, you want to be using it to repair/rebuild muscles etc. So make sure your carb intake is acceptable. When I began, I wrote myself a training plan, and a diet plan. The training plan was good, and so all I had to do was nail the diet. I had a rough idea of how many carbs protein fat cals I would need to be taking in, and with the carbs I would just adjust up and down by 500 a week if I found I was adding too much fat, or not eating enough.

A good source of quality carbs is oats, these can be mixed in with your shakes no problem. I was amazed when I first discovered oats, and I'm thankful for them. This was quite a long time ago now but they've been a good friend to me over the years. A low G.I source of quality carbs that you can take anywhere with you and can be taken with just water and protein/or by itself in a shaker rather than having to stop and prepare a meal.

ANY time during the day take your shakes with water, and before bed take your shakes with milk and a 5ml of flax or similar if you have any as this will slow down the speed of the absorbtion so your body will be absorbing for most of the night.

I'll read through this again later or tomorrow, I hope it makes sense as I am in rush to get out and only wrote this VERY quick. Appreciate it if anyone could fill in anything I've missed.
 
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as a all in 1 product, usn muscle fuel isnt that bad imo

Feature Ingredients per 110g serving:

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  • 43g Protein – A blend of protein sources including whey protein isolate and concentrate, egg albumen powder, calcium caseinate and soy protein isolate
  • 49g Carbohydrates - Slow burning complex carbohydrates from a proven natural corn source (and not sucrose) ensuring a sustained energy supply without encouraging fat storage
  • Vitamins and Minerals - Complete vitamin and mineral package providing essential micro-nutrients
  • BCAA enriched amino package – providing branched chain amino acids as well as all other essential & non-essential muscle building amino-acids
  • L-Glutamine for enhanced muscle growth, repair, and recovery (See USN's L-Glutamine powder for more information)
  • 4g MCT – body fat reducing essential fats, also providing additional high energy calories and ensuring minimal muscle catabolism
  • Lactazyme ™ - USN’s unique digestive enzyme formulation increases protein absorption and causes a slower, sustained release into the system
  • Safe and approved sweetener (Sucralose)
  • Sucrose free and contains no artificial colourants or chemical preservatives
Full ingredient list: Whey protein isolate and concentrate, maltodextrin, egg albumen, calcium caseinate, soy protein, fructose, MCT (medium chain triglycerides), starch, stabiliser: cellulose gum, cocoa powder (chocolate only), l-glutamine, calcium phosphate, sodium chloride, flavouring, vitamin Blend (A, C, E, D3, B1, B2, niacin, pantothenic acid, B6, biotin, folic acid, B12), taurine, leucine, iso-leucine, valine, sweetener: Sucralose


However, you could buy your own stuff individually for much cheaper.

Whey protein
L-Glute
taurine
BCAAs
some oats

all that would give you more than the muscle fuel in volume and be cheaper :]
 
digitalwolf said:
I'm gradually progressing in weight (11'8) now from 11st after 3 months gyming.

Instructor reckons I could atleast be at 12st now if I was having the optimum amount of protein.

He keeps banging on about these shakes and how I should take them

I'm quite aware it's just protein but is it? He wants to put me on this "muscle fuel" stuff which sounds a tad more than protein.

Can I harm myself in anyway taking this stuff, i'm 18 and have 3 years left of maturity?
Is he or the gym you're in selling this stuff by any chance?

This is one of the best formula's I've seen http://www.myprotein.co.uk/formulas/our-formulas/hurricane-xs-formula/ It's almost identical to Maximiuscle Cyclone but superior in my opinion because it doesn't force you into taking stupid amounts of creatine everytime you want a drink. This contains 5g Creatine per serving so fine to take twice a day if needed. Cyclone contains 10g!!

The Hurricane is also a LOT cheaper, especially if you use the code MP5500 ;)
 
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Chong Warrior said:
Is he or the gym you're in selling this stuff by any chance?

This is one of the best formula's I've seen http://www.myprotein.co.uk/formulas/our-formulas/hurricane-xs-formula/ It's almost identical to Maximiuscle Cyclone but superior in my opinion because it doesn't force you into taking stupid amounts of creatine everytime you want a drink. This contains 5g Creatine per serving so fine to take twice a day if needed. Cyclone contains 10g!!

The Hurricane is also a LOT cheaper ;)

Do you think this is necessary? Personally I don't, I'd rather buy the goods seperatly and make my own shakes regardless of these 'formulas'.

Oddly enough, when reading back what I have just written it seems like I'm having a dig, so I'll point out that I'm not in the slightest, I'm just interested in your opinion :)
 
If you dancy doing the myprotein one then you could use my referral code of MP22183 to get some fraction of money off your first order :p
 
S7yl3s said:
Do you think this is necessary? Personally I don't, I'd rather buy the goods seperatly and make my own shakes regardless of these 'formulas'.

Oddly enough, when reading back what I have just written it seems like I'm having a dig, so I'll point out that I'm not in the slightest, I'm just interested in your opinion :)
I'm of exactly the same opinion as you mate :)

It's just most people can't be bothered (or have the knowledge) to have umpteen tubs of various powders. Not everyone takes it as seriously as guys like us ;)

As far as all-in-ones go I'd say the Hurricane is one of the best.
 
S7yl3s said:
Check out www.myprotein.co.uk and type www.sports-nutrition.net in the price matcher and use one of the chaps here's discount code as I cba to find mine and I'm sure they will appreciate it more than me :D You're looking for the £22.93 Whey.
I find it's better to order 10lbs from sports nutrition, purely because they sell relabelled reflex, which tastes a hell of a lot nice than the MP chalk ;). (and it costs the same if you add 2 to the basket then use the code muscletalk)
 
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I heard sports-nutrition is a sister company to MP, could be wrong but I've heard it mentioned.

How do you know it's relabelled Reflex? Is this true?

MP chalk? :confused: Anybody else think that?
 
Chong Warrior said:
How do you know it's relabelled Reflex? Is this true?

MP chalk? :confused: Anybody else think that?
The description of it on my statement says "Reflex Nutrition, Hove" and All in one and Reflex happen to have the same address. And in comparison, MP's stuff is chalk :p.
 
cottage cheese+splenda> whey protein

ive tried both, the reason why people get such "amazing" results with whey is because they are hitting their optimum nutrition period, which is minutes after finishing their workout.

if you want a less synthetic alternative to whey, cottage cheese is the way to go, or quark. Both taste much better with some fruit or sugar/sweetener stirred through.
 
Snax said:
ive tried both, the reason why people get such "amazing" results with whey is because they are hitting their optimum nutrition period, which is minutes after finishing their workout.

I was told not to take it right after a workout, but to have a meal within 20 minutes of finishing the workout then have a shake right after that meal. Is that right?
 
Thanks for replies.

So these shakes will not harm any natural body growth at all then?

Yes it is the instructor at the gym telling me to go on USN Muscle Fuel.

I'd personally want it all in one.
 
if you only take the whey twice a day, for example mixed in with your oatmeal porridge in the morning and also straight after your workout in the evening, how much whey would you use in each case? Teaspoons?
 
daztrouk said:
if you only take the whey twice a day, for example mixed in with your oatmeal porridge in the morning and also straight after your workout in the evening, how much whey would you use in each case? Teaspoons?

Dont they come with scoops in the tubs?
 
daztrouk said:
my one from myprotein didn't :confused:
yea you have to buy the scoop seperately, 50p or something..i use 50g, but using the scoop, dont know how many spoons it is :(
 
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