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mid_gen

mid_gen

mid_gen

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Been using Proton VPN for a while....and doing some stuff that requires building a few websites/domains I need some better email hosting than the stuff that comes with my reseller account. As it happens my Office 365 sub has expired, and although I didn't use Office, I do use Onedrive heavily.

I noticed Proton do Proton Unlimited, which gives you VPN, mail with 3 custom domains, Proton Drive (their OneDrive equivalent), and their password manager. Seems a pretty good deal and everything I need.

But....is Proton Drive any good? I tried iCloud Drive but it sucks really bad. OneDrive works really well across macOS/windows/iPhone/android......
 
Not much help but I always find it bizarre how people say OneDrive works really well with MacOS it’s horrid. IIRC proton drive does the job, I haven’t used it personally.
 
I've used Proton Mail (free) for a while, not had any issues. I have never had any need or use for OneDrive or Proton's equivalent.

Did just have a quick look at the plan prices. I know the features/options don't match, but if paying annually the 365 Personal annual plan works out at £7.08 a month with double the storage.

The Proton Unlimited plan mentions 500GB storage but I am assuming like everything else it's shared between mailboxes / storage.

I'm not saying I would go for the Microsoft option, just wanted to mention it.
 
I use it and love it, just make sure to use the 30% off offer going rather than the 20% they have on the website.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Not much help but I always find it bizarre how people say OneDrive works really well with MacOS it’s horrid. IIRC proton drive does the job, I haven’t used it personally.
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This man has not tried using iCloud Drive on Windows. It does not work, so completely useless!
kindai said:
I use it and love it, just make sure to use the 30% off offer going rather than the 20% they have on the website.
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Good to know! I only want it for document syncing, so not fussed about big photo libraries (I self host Immich for that).
 
mid_gen said:
This man has not tried using iCloud Drive on Windows. It does not work, so completely useless!

Good to know! I only want it for document syncing, so not fussed about big photo libraries (I self host Immich for that).
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Yep completely agree, Google drive is the best out of them all, not perfect but the best of them all for me.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Yep completely agree, Google drive is the best out of them all, not perfect but the best of them all for me.
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I just really not get on with Google products at all. consumer Gmail is tolerable but their business products and drive etc I can’t stand.

Think I will bite the bullet and go Proton. I really need some decent email hosting for a couple of my domains and getting that through a decent interface plus the vpn, drive, etc all for one price is pretty compelling, assuming the drive works ok.
 
Well I bit the bullet and went with the full Proton package. Been using Drive a couple of weeks and it's all fine so far, syncing perfectly across my MBA, two windows machines, iPhone. Nice to uninstall iCloud Drive and OneDrive and get rid of those nags.

Migrated my domains web hosting over to Proton Mail too which does a nice job of consolidating everything into one mailbox with a decent web UI and phone client.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Nice and always great when people report back. Are proton an established company/business?
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Yes they’ve been around a while, their original product was their privacy focused Proton Mail service (they are Swiss-based, no access to your data, E2E encrypted, no ads), but have branched out since.

Kinda tempted to forward my gmail to the proton mail inbox as well and just have the one client. Although I’m definitely keeping my Gmail as I much prefer using Oauth logins to maintaining separate user/passwords for everything.
 
Well I've like my experience with Proton so much so far, I'm slowly migrating my key digital services to it.

I switch frequently between MacOS, Windows, Linux, and while most things Apple make kinda works with Windows, and most Windows things work kinda ok with Mac/iOS, none of them work equally well across all of them. What I like I about Proton is that it's platform agnostic and works equally well on everything.

I'm now using Drive for my document sharing/backup.

Mail for my hosting all my custom domains (all the custom domains coming into a unified inbox, tagged by destination, nice UI, I like).

VPN for.....security :)

Pass as my password manager.

Authenticator as my 2FA generator...although it's going to take a while to migrate all my accounts....will chip away at it.

All with one Proton account which I have tightly secured with Yubikey hardware keys.

I might give their Docs and Sheets a whirl for the odd document. Maybe use Calendar for my business.....
 
Rename thread to general Proton services.

So have discovered now that Proton Pass will handle the 2FA side of things, and much better. So you have the Proton Pass app on your phone, and installed as a browser extension. You have Proton Pass already store the password for your login, then you enable 2FA, open the entry for that site in Proton Pass, edit it, and you can use your camera to snap the QR code to link the TOTP to the login. Now when you access a site using 2FA codes, not only will Proton Pass fill your secure password for you, it will also popup the OTP code automatically when you get prompted, rather than having to dig your phone out and open the authenticator.

Definitely nicer than having separate authenticator app, although as with all these things you need to make bloody sure your master accouunt isn't compromised. I've now enabled Proton Sentinel on my account which basically puts stricter controls on login, more auditing, stricter challenges for logins etc. Also stops you using insecure 2FA methods like SMS.
 
I’ve been slowly moving all my digital sevvices off US products and moved over to Proton,I find them ok for the most part.
Mail is great and no different from gmail.
Pass in my opinion is only ok, it’s not as intuitive to use or as smooth as Lastpass which I’ve moved from.
VPN as with pass, just not quite as good as Nord but it works.
Drive is poor on my iPhone, I’m a long time Dropbox user which runs well, it’s smooth fast and nice to use. Drive is not, it’s laggy, uploads are incredibly slow, it’s inferior in every way.

But in the end I get all the above for significantly less money and I know they will improve over time, and it’s not American.
 
I’ve moved away from Gmail and migrated a custom email domain from iCloud over to Proton Mail, unifying both. For the most part I’ve been really happy with it. I’d like tighter integration with iOS in that I would like the email app to show previews of emails rather than just the subject line in the notification area, but I use the app in TestFlight mode, and they’re always releasing new fixes and features, and wouldn’t be surprised if this turned up sooner rather than later.

More than anything I’ve been surprised how long it’s taken me to migrate as much as I have away from Gmail, and I’m still not fully moved over. Every time I stumble across another Gmail linked account, I move it over, and I’m still doing it over a year later.

I realised I can get proton pass with 2FA etc cheaper than my current 1Password account, but I pay for 1Password annually and that renewed last month, so I’ll leave that for now, then think about upgrading. I have Surfshark for my NAS VPN container setup, but may be able to use Proton VPN for that as well. Might be cheaper to join it all up in the long run, if I’m organised enough to migrate when billing cycles come up! :p
 
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The only issue I have with moving everything to Proton or any other all encompassing solution is that if they decide to go evil or submit to various governments then you have the same problem again of having to move everything.
 
Mr_Orange said:
The only issue I have with moving everything to Proton or any other all encompassing solution is that if they decide to go evil or submit to various governments then you have the same problem again of having to move everything.
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Well, it’s not really an all encompassing solution, you can put as much or as little as you like in there.

It’s preferable to handing everything over to the likes of Google…and more secure and less hassle than self-hosting.

Proton are Swiss who don’t as a rule bend the knee. The service has a good track record.
 
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