smcshaw said:snip.
Not everyone needs blue-tooth headset either
Also he got the price of the hd -drive wrong its more like £130
smcshaw said:snip.
wannabedamned said:>> Oh Gawd not another one of these posts. <<
Will people who arent interested in a PS3 just go away?
And people who are interested stay?
Yes you have an opinon. But why does everyone who doesnt want a PS3 and doesnt like the spec have to convert everyone else? Is it a cult we arent aware of??

REDD555 said:etc etc...
Suppose there are some good bundle deals about but remember that it's been out over a year so should be expected really.
Not much in the prices then all things considered?

FrankJH said:Also he got the price of the hd -drive wrong its more like £130

laughinREDD555 said:**** me! Is it? Well that settles it then.![]()


FrankJH said:laughin
I still got one as I thought it reasonable - then when I collect my PS3 pre-order I can cover both options and not worry.
Now just for the projector and screen![]()
REDD555 said:PS3 =
Next Gen Console with ample power
60Gb of storage
Blu-Ray HD (full 1080p) player
Wi-Fi ready
Wireless controllers and charge cables included
Quiet as a mouse (if I remember from previews and owners comments).
Size of a house but all encased in one box
£425 thanks very much.
Xbox360 =
Next Gen Console with ample power
20Gb of storage
Wireless controller
Noisy as a freight train and external "brick" to power it up.
£280
+
HD-Drive (720p up to 1080i max) around £80
+
Play and Charge Kit around £16
+
Wi-Fi adaptor around £60.
Suppose there are some good bundle deals about but remember that it's been out over a year so should be expected really.
Not much in the prices then all things considered?

FrankJH said:Not at all, 1stly this console is going to be around for 4 or five years - so its more than likely that by the end of this period more people will be using it as a hi-def source than soley a games machine.
FrankJH said:Think of the uptake of hidef tv's before the world cup - everyone and his dog wanted one and therefore as this is one of the cheapest routes to a fully fledged hi-def movie experience, not to mention being able to replace your cd player and standard dvd player I think its more than likely to become a general source more than just something for games.
FrankJH said:This is even without the rumoured linux usages which may interest even more people in one way or another.
Joe Public, who may be interested in a new 50" LCD TV - despite not even understanding the majority of the spec-sheet - will not have a clue what Linux is, yet alone know how to install a distro!FrankJH said:In one sense the POTENTIAL games market is relatively fixed (even if its constantly changing with some growing out of it and others growing into it) but multiples of this group are interested in hidef audio or video entertainment.
FrankJH said:How can you possibly know how much you are paying for the internal 60GB hdd? Even if you do know do you seriously think £70 for an external 20GB hdd is a fair price (when it should cost no more than about £30 or so for basically End Of Life units like this with cheap caddy's and usb connectors to be added) ? This is MS making money hand over fist
FrankJH said:I actually plan on putting all my 30GB of music on the hdd and using it as parties for a source, or in the same style as Vista if an add-on appears being able to browse movies - the limits of whats available are down to what Sony allow to be used (again without considering Linux being the OS and then limits ARE endless)
FrankJH said:You keep on thinking JUST as a gamer when this unit is more of a general PC or entertainment hub.
FrankJH said:By the way I seem to remember the same "compromise" coming up when PS2 was launched in laoding times etc, hmmmmm now please remind me what happened there???? Programmers got better at taking advantage of what was available and it ended up beating everything else in the market place for 5 or 6 years

FrankJH said:Yes it does - but you pay extortionate amounts for add on bits (not to mention numerous power supplies, cables, marketing, distribution costs added to each device) and in the quantities MS produce there is just no excuse for the add-ons being so expensive

FrankJH said:Im the first to admit that I have just bought a hd-dvd drive and about 8 films but its going nowhere near the 360 as I have a pretty decent shuttle attached to my large tv and why bother adding the X360 (another noise source and louder than my shutttle) which I will probably end up selling anyway - how the hell can you say anything has bombed in the 1st year of its life when the developers are only just starting to extract the units potential? Thats ludicrous in such a long proposed / expected life span
FrankJH said:I am more disappointed with BOTH systems in the price / proposed price of the software, if the marketing / sales team of which ever system forced games to be max of £40 street value (recommended £35) I can gaurentee that more than enough extra copies would be sold to compensate - £50 to my mind is too much and this is where both Sony and MS have made a huge mistake .
Edz said:Omg, how narrow minded some people are
Yep if you want all that crap the 360 will cost more overall, but if you don't well....
Also for all those people that don't **** cash they can buy what they want when they want.
The PS3 is a nice piece of kit no doubt, but I can't help feeling we've been here already with the PSP. Lots of extra's you pay for, yet a very mediocre games console (at best)???
Let's hope not...
REDD555 said:Yep. Narrow minded. Pot and kettle spring to mind.
Been there, nothing to see. Move along....

REDD555 said:And the last word goes to ...............![]()
REDD555 said:Yey!!! He bit.
ROFL.