PS3 UK Launch details.

wannabedamned said:
>> Oh Gawd not another one of these posts. <<

Will people who arent interested in a PS3 just go away?

And people who are interested stay?

Yes you have an opinon. But why does everyone who doesnt want a PS3 and doesnt like the spec have to convert everyone else? Is it a cult we arent aware of??

Lol, I was replying to a misinformation(tm) post comparing 360 and PS3 prices.
I am interested like most people on here in a PS3 eventually, once the games justify the price. I think it's a good looking console but I have major problems in certain descisions Sony made that I'm not a fan of at the moment.

We're all gamers and I think there's a certain paranoia prevalent at the moment.

C'mon, we're all on the same side. But when someone tried to say the PS3 is cheaper than a 360 I feel like saying something.
 
Good looking lineup tbh, although maybe a bit to much choice there for my likeing.

Only games I would be interested in would be RfoM, Motostorm & F1, although the last two I'm not convinced on as I feel the rumble feature missing would make them feel bland :(

Would have to try before I buy.
 
I've just given one of my pre-orders to one of my mates in work,

Is this going to be a problem, i.e. him picking the console up, not me?? just don't want him disappointed, he's a huge sony fan, and he's so looking forward to it, I don't want him upset if he got turned around at the till!!..
 
REDD555 said:
etc etc...
Suppose there are some good bundle deals about but remember that it's been out over a year so should be expected really.
Not much in the prices then all things considered?

Didn't see anything there that deserved a reaction like that smcshaw but facts are facts. Both of the consoles have been billed as "more than just a games machine" so whether 90% of people want the extra capability or not, they're in the price you're paying for the console (or peripherals you buy after).

I'm not a PS3 fanboy at all. Had a 360 and sold it. Nothing on PS3 I want for right now games wise but I'm a big Gran Turismo fan (and loved PGR3).

I for one, (not cos I'm loaded at all) can easily justify the price as I want to buy a Blu-Ray player anyway. This just gives me even more to do while I wait for GT5 :D

Great launch line up by the way....back on topic chaps ;)
 
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REDD555 said:
**** me! Is it? Well that settles it then. ;)
laughin

I still got one as I thought it reasonable - then when I collect my PS3 pre-order I can cover both options and not worry.

Now just for the projector and screen :D
 
Off-Topic, but who ever it was that commented on the price of the 360HD saying about just the extra connectors and cheap caddy's you have to remember it also contains the emulation software that enables you to play our beloved orign Xbox games. And i'd of thought knowing MS this will be factored in to the price as well. :)
 
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FrankJH said:
laughin

I still got one as I thought it reasonable - then when I collect my PS3 pre-order I can cover both options and not worry.

Now just for the projector and screen :D

LOL. Just need a screen myself. Been looking everywhere for the past few year but not found one I liked yet. It's a confusing market i can tell ya!
 
REDD555 said:
PS3 =
Next Gen Console with ample power
60Gb of storage
Blu-Ray HD (full 1080p) player
Wi-Fi ready
Wireless controllers and charge cables included
Quiet as a mouse (if I remember from previews and owners comments).
Size of a house but all encased in one box
£425 thanks very much.

Xbox360 =
Next Gen Console with ample power
20Gb of storage
Wireless controller
Noisy as a freight train and external "brick" to power it up.
£280
+
HD-Drive (720p up to 1080i max) around £80
+
Play and Charge Kit around £16
+
Wi-Fi adaptor around £60.

Suppose there are some good bundle deals about but remember that it's been out over a year so should be expected really.
Not much in the prices then all things considered?


Omg, how narrow minded some people are :(

Yep if you want all that crap the 360 will cost more overall, but if you don't well....
Also for all those people that don't **** cash they can buy what they want when they want.

The PS3 is a nice piece of kit no doubt, but I can't help feeling we've been here already with the PSP. Lots of extra's you pay for, yet a very mediocre games console (at best)???

Let's hope not...
 
FrankJH said:
Not at all, 1stly this console is going to be around for 4 or five years - so its more than likely that by the end of this period more people will be using it as a hi-def source than soley a games machine.

Why do you think that? The PS2 had a life span of 4 - 5 years (hell, it's still going), yet I've never seen anyone buy that to use as their dedicated DVD player in their front-room. The original xBox was modified to use as an entertainment centre, but barely anyone (in comparrison to how many people actually owned an xbox) were actually interested in doing it. It could rip CDs as well as play DVDs - yet the vast majority of people just used it as a DVD playing games machine. Just because the PS3 can support otherwise doesn't mean it's going to take off - nor does it mean there's suddenly a huge market (which you seem to think is around the 50% mark!) for people wanting to use it as a media centre!

FrankJH said:
Think of the uptake of hidef tv's before the world cup - everyone and his dog wanted one and therefore as this is one of the cheapest routes to a fully fledged hi-def movie experience, not to mention being able to replace your cd player and standard dvd player I think its more than likely to become a general source more than just something for games.

Problem is here, you're comparing apples and pairs. Almost everyone in Britian has a TV, and as such would benefit from upgrading from their dingy old 32" CRT TV to a brand spanking new 50" LCD TV. You're also making a huge assumption in saying that they upgraded for the hi-def movie experience; hi-def movies aren't even mainstream yet with a comparatively small amount of people actually using Sky-HD.

FrankJH said:
This is even without the rumoured linux usages which may interest even more people in one way or another.

But yet again, we're talking about a tiny percentage of people who'll be interested in doing this :) Joe Public, who may be interested in a new 50" LCD TV - despite not even understanding the majority of the spec-sheet - will not have a clue what Linux is, yet alone know how to install a distro!

FrankJH said:
In one sense the POTENTIAL games market is relatively fixed (even if its constantly changing with some growing out of it and others growing into it) but multiples of this group are interested in hidef audio or video entertainment.

Well yeah, that's a given - ofcourse people are going to be interested in new techology, but is what they want the same as what Sony is producing? Baring in mind that even though the introduction of Blu-Ray, whilst certainly a fantastic technological step forwards, is being forced into the consumers at an additional price. Microsoft are confident that they don't need to use the additional storage space offered by HD-DVD for games - why would it be neceessary for the PS3? Would the PS3's success be much better if it used standard DVD drives at a lower cost? Because I can't see the hi-def brigade being upset at lack of Blu-Ray if the games were still identical on DVD format at a lower price...

FrankJH said:
How can you possibly know how much you are paying for the internal 60GB hdd? Even if you do know do you seriously think £70 for an external 20GB hdd is a fair price (when it should cost no more than about £30 or so for basically End Of Life units like this with cheap caddy's and usb connectors to be added) ? This is MS making money hand over fist

I don't know for sure. But I know there's a £145 price difference between the 360 and the PS3 - and these two components (the blu-ray drive and HDD) seem to be the most expensive components. Yes, I don't agree with Microsoft charging so much for their HDD as you do and I think they're ripping the consumers off. But by the same token, I'm comparing the Premium 360 with the PS3 - not the Core system.

FrankJH said:
I actually plan on putting all my 30GB of music on the hdd and using it as parties for a source, or in the same style as Vista if an add-on appears being able to browse movies - the limits of whats available are down to what Sony allow to be used (again without considering Linux being the OS and then limits ARE endless)

What's your point here? You can do that with the 360, minus the Linux possibility. The fact you have 30GB of music is neither here-nor-there - I only have 6GB of music which I could put on my 360 without a problem - and someone with 70GB of music wouldn't be able to fit all theirs onto the PS3.

FrankJH said:
You keep on thinking JUST as a gamer when this unit is more of a general PC or entertainment hub.

No, I'm looking at it from a JUST a casual gamer's point of view - because you keep on thinking the casual gamer's are only going to be taking up JUST 50% of the market. It is not more of a general PC or entertainment hub - they've bolted on some (quite frankly) basic features, and you're making it out to be Windows Media Centre to the power of seven bahzillion. And that's not a dig at Sony's features - the 360's has some very basic features as well, but that's because they realise they'd never be able to market the console as a media centre first, console second. It's always console first.

FrankJH said:
By the way I seem to remember the same "compromise" coming up when PS2 was launched in laoding times etc, hmmmmm now please remind me what happened there???? Programmers got better at taking advantage of what was available and it ended up beating everything else in the market place for 5 or 6 years

Unfortunatley I was much younger when the PS2 came out and not as interested in hardware specifications - although if you'd be as kind as to find some links I'd love to have a read into the PS2's older issues :)

FrankJH said:
Yes it does - but you pay extortionate amounts for add on bits (not to mention numerous power supplies, cables, marketing, distribution costs added to each device) and in the quantities MS produce there is just no excuse for the add-ons being so expensive

Yeah, it sucks that companies do this, but there's no way around it - people will buy at inflated prices if they can't get the product elsewhere (or at the same quality) - although you're very mistaken if you don't think Sony will do the same :)

FrankJH said:
Im the first to admit that I have just bought a hd-dvd drive and about 8 films but its going nowhere near the 360 as I have a pretty decent shuttle attached to my large tv and why bother adding the X360 (another noise source and louder than my shutttle) which I will probably end up selling anyway - how the hell can you say anything has bombed in the 1st year of its life when the developers are only just starting to extract the units potential? Thats ludicrous in such a long proposed / expected life span

I've had my 360 for a year and they haven't made enough changes to the media aspect of the 360 to make it take-over my media experiences. Nor have we heard that they're planning X, Y or Z to make it better - but we do however have many developers making bigger and better games all the time - which sort of shows you what direction consoles are still moving in: gaming.

FrankJH said:
I am more disappointed with BOTH systems in the price / proposed price of the software, if the marketing / sales team of which ever system forced games to be max of £40 street value (recommended £35) I can gaurentee that more than enough extra copies would be sold to compensate - £50 to my mind is too much and this is where both Sony and MS have made a huge mistake .

Yeah, £50 is just ridiculous and I agree with you about lowering the street value - I've purchased very few games due to the stupidly high costs of software now-a-days, which from my point of view is a shame. I don't have enough money to pay a ton for two games and even if porductions costs are rising, I don't think consumers should have to foot that bill where the quality fo the game doesn't reflect the inflated price.

-RaZ
 
Edz said:
Omg, how narrow minded some people are :(

Yep if you want all that crap the 360 will cost more overall, but if you don't well....
Also for all those people that don't **** cash they can buy what they want when they want.

The PS3 is a nice piece of kit no doubt, but I can't help feeling we've been here already with the PSP. Lots of extra's you pay for, yet a very mediocre games console (at best)???

Let's hope not...

Yep. Narrow minded. Pot and kettle spring to mind.

Been there, nothing to see. Move along....
 
REDD555 said:
Yep. Narrow minded. Pot and kettle spring to mind.

Been there, nothing to see. Move along....

Let's just say seen it, heard it all before. If you want to make pricing comparisons between both consoles,then make sure the prices are correct and more importantly anyone really cares :)
 
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