PS3 vs 360 : A developers POV

[Mr Latte]

You are quite clearly biased, you come across as being as Pro MS as they come!

Yeah Sony has problems, but so does the 360... at least with Sony expertise in creating quality consumer electronics (batteries not included ) they aren't releasing a shoddy console to the market only for it to fail a hell of a lot, and I'm sure aren't gonna don't force firmware updates onto the public only for it to knacker half the consoles out there only for consumers to be charged to get it repaired!!!

Is this your best argument against Microsoft?
The problem with faulty machines is that when sent back they are replaced with B grade already fixed machines. Its not ideal and yes i agree something could be done here but people are getting their replacements pretty fast. You will also see threads that have many people including myself that still have working launch period machines.

Bad batches of production will happen in anything and im sure PS3 has its own fair share of failures, they might be more aware when Sony sell as many as 10 million too.

Open any Sony electrical equipment and you will find chips and hardware out-sourced from many other brands. The way you speak is of the Sony of old not of the Sony of today or recent times.

Like i said give me reasons to praise the PS3 and its launch thus far and i will praise it. I wont defend a corporation that bullies import companies or treats UK/Euro terrorities like 2nd class citizens charging them more and continually releasing software and hardware at much later times than USA or JAP regions.

I certianly wont listen to any of their PR nonsence that just isnt factual which they use to strenghen their brand.

 

[rp2000]

You are quite clearly biased, you come across as being as Pro MS as they come!

Yeah Sony has problems, but so does the 360... at least with Sony expertise in creating quality consumer electronics (batteries not included ) they aren't releasing a shoddy console to the market only for it to fail a hell of a lot, and I'm sure aren't gonna force firmware updates onto the public only for it to knacker half the consoles out there only for consumers to be charged to get it repaired!!!

Have to agree with this. No matter how many manufacturing problems Sony have had in terms of quantity, the quality is better than the 360.

Before you ask i don't have one, all i know is 2 months into the 360's cycle there were 1000's (maybe 10,000s?) of returns or repair requests already.

In fact around this time after the 360's release MS were busy releasing statements saying "The failure rate of xbox360 is well below industry averages for Consumer Electronics Devices" or words to that effect. Which has turned out to be so far from the truth its unbelievable.

I myslef have only had to have my machien replaced once (more than enough). I would settle for a console with less quality games as long as the games weren't briocking the consoles!!!


This has been seen with too many 360 games for me to mention, or for it to be disputed. Same goes for the autoupdates I guess.



rp2000


p.s. I don't really care too much, I have a 360 and some games, but if it breaks before March (My warranty already expired), I'm waiting for a PS3. I'm sure in March or whenever it is released I will buy one. To be honest most of the people who whinge on these boards can't afford/justify both, so they instead spend time knocking other people's purchases to make themselves feel better.

p.p.s The console forums aren't that much fun these days, way too many arguements and constant disputes. I could easily list 10 posters who contribue to these threads constantly. Ever since the forum shutdown (last month?) This place hasn't been as much fun. Shame really......

 

[Joebob]

Is this your best argument against Microsoft?

No it isn't but you know my views on MS already so lets not go over that again. With regards the 360, I don't have a problem with it. I am however getting a bit tired of your constant praising of Microsoft and moaning about Sony... but you wont admit you're bias!

 

[Mr Latte]

No it isn't but you know my views on MS already so lets not go over that again. With regards the 360, I don't have a problem with it. I am however getting a bit tired of your constant praising of Microsoft and moaning about Sony... but you wont admit you're bias!

You on the other hand cant deny you loathe Microsoft.
I have already expressed in past discussions i have over 4k of Sony hardware laying around and wont avoid their products simply because they are Sony.

I buy their products if i like them and they warrant they purchase, currently its my own view the PS3 does not as im not caring for Blu Ray at this stage and for gaming the lack of its AAA not being avaible dissapoints, plus to be honest the 360 is catering for most of my gaming needs.

Im truly dissapointed in the PS3 launch and sick of their BS claiming superiority with it, its not a hate thing its an annoyance.

 

[Joebob]

You on the other hand cant deny you loathe Microsoft.

I don't loathe them, I just don't praticulary like them as a company. I don't however make comments about the 360 with every post I make about the PS3.

Im truly dissapointed in the PS3 launch and sick of their BS claiming superiority with it, its not a hate thing its an annoyance.

It shows BIG TIME!

Let's leave it for another time now though as it's starting to turn into 'handbags at dawn' again!

 

[McManicMan]

you do know that on the Offical sony Website you are not allowed to post negative stuff about the PS3,

i wonder why

where as on the MS offical forums you can

 

[rp2000]

you do know that on the Offical sony Website you are not allowed to post negative stuff about the PS3,

i wonder why

where as on the MS offical forums you can

So what? On the OCUK forums you can't post negative stuff about OCUK!!!


rp2000

 

[Mr Latte]

Joebob

You know your not worth arguing with because you never consider the other persons point of view and im not going to bother with any further threads regarding each machine...

I defend the 360 for what its achieved not because i like Microsoft, i couldnt care less if lego made the 360 its a good games machine with good games. Its hugely popular and lives upto its expectations. For me i see that Microsoft have done a hellava lot for the industry lately and pioneered many things within it pushing gaming to new levels of enjoyment. Not only that they have backed their platform with some pretty decent games and continually released new games every quarter.

Regards Sony
If you cant see that since the PS3 was announced Sony have made more blunders and BS announcements with delays, more delays and a pricepoint that scares the crap out of most industry professionals not to mention not backing up the launch with a quality release schedule yes even after all this time and one day talking about features in a game only to announce a week later the game is now a demo or sorry its not now 1080p or 60FPS they contine to talk crap. What was the reason for GT HD not being a full release game, a game they used to hype the system since it was announced at E3 06. Isnt it odd that this game now will never appear and what of the PSP version, do you like it when a company acts this way, then why defend them?. Their mouthing off poilicy just seems to be what they do best at the moment and is what i hate yet some like yourself are just blinded by your devotion to the brand.

Sony have lost the plot and a lot of respect in the industry...
You get respect by earning it, so tell me which company so far deserves more respect by what they have done for the gaming industry with their nextgen consoles...

 

[Joebob]

Joebob

You know your not worth arguing with because you never consider the other persons point of view and im not going to bother with any further threads regarding each machine...

Funny, that's exactly how I feel with your threads! Maybe we should just agree to disagree?

You get respect by earning it, so tell me which company so far deserves more respect by what they have done for the gaming industry with their nextgen consoles...

Sony have my respect for what they did with the launch of the PS1, but with regards to the latest gen consoles it hasnt even had it's european launch yet so it's a bit premature asking how they have earnt respect!!! I give MS credit where due, there online gaming setup is better than Sony's and the GPU is more powerfull, I have said plenty of times I think it's a decent system.

My original point with all of this stems down to the fact that you constantly labelled me as a fanboy or biased towards Sony when you are just as biased the other way but can't seem to find it within yourself to admit it!

Maybe we should just start a new thread called 'Mr Latte v Joebob' and keep it all in there

 

[rp2000]

Funny, that's exactly how I feel with your threads! Maybe we should just agree to disagree?

Sony have my respect for what they did with the launch of the PS1, but with regards to the latest gen consoles it hasnt even had it's european launch yet so it's a bit premature asking how they have earnt respect!!! I give MS credit where due, there online gaming setup is better than Sony's and the GPU is more powerfull, I have said plenty of times I think it's a decent system.

My original point with all of this stems down to the fact that you constantly labelled me as a fanboy or biased towards Sony when you are just as biased the other way but can't seem to find it within yourself to admit it!

Maybe we should just start a new thread called 'Mr Latte v Joebob' and keep it all in there

Like your sig. I wonder if we can get people to add this to their sigs. Kinda like an awareness band or something? Just as a reminder to people.


rp2000

 

[Mr Latte]

My original point with all of this stems down to the fact that you constantly labelled me as a fanboy or biased towards Sony when you are just as biased the other way but can't seem to find it within yourself to admit it!

Maybe we should just start a new thread called 'Mr Latte v Joebob' and keep it all in there

I was under the impression by several others you were a fanboy, and mentioning things in past thread you wont use Windows because its Microsoft etc is just pointless pettiness.

Anything i have said regards the PS3 show me it not to be the case, i complained because quite frankly theirs a lot to complain about and i dont see how the Euro release will be much different to the USA launch, successfull yes but limited.

Please dont argue any further just point out why people should be impressed with the PS3 and warrent its purchase come the UK launch, hows that...

 

[Kreeeee]

p.s. I don't really care too much, I have a 360 and some games, but if it breaks before March (My warranty already expired), I'm waiting for a PS3. I'm sure in March or whenever it is released I will buy one. To be honest most of the people who whinge on these boards can't afford/justify both, so they instead spend time knocking other people's purchases to make themselves feel better.

p.p.s The console forums aren't that much fun these days, way too many arguements and constant disputes. I could easily list 10 posters who contribue to these threads constantly. Ever since the forum shutdown (last month?) This place hasn't been as much fun. Shame really......

I agree. I could easily afford all 3 and will get a PS3 at launch if the rumoured new price is correct (£325 was it??).

I miss a lot of the people who were recently banned and agree that the forum hasn't been the same since

 

[Andy298]

Maybe we should just agree to disagree?

That's got to be the most sensible comment on this thread!

Seems every PS3 thread gets turned into a 360/PS3 flame war. It's getting really tedious!

 

[Mr Latte]

That's got to be the most sensible comment on this thread!

Seems every PS3 thread gets turned into a 360/PS3 flame war. It's getting really tedious!

Yes true but this was a VS thread to be fair.

 

[rp2000]

I agree. I could easily afford all 3 and will get a PS3 at launch if the rumoured new price is correct (£325 was it??).

I miss a lot of the people who were recently banned and agree that the forum hasn't been the same since

Me too, the other place they setup is not as good as it was here prior to a 2 months ago.



rp2000

 

[geordie10]

I agree. I could easily afford all 3 and will get a PS3 at launch if the rumoured new price is correct (£325 was it??).

I miss a lot of the people who were recently banned and agree that the forum hasn't been the same since

This is the price.

Sony has confirmed to GamesIndustry.biz that the 60GB PlayStation 3 will retail for EUR 629.99 in Ireland - but said the price is still set at EUR 599 for the rest of Europe.

"Ireland is traditionally more expensive than other territories," the spokesperson explained.

"The VAT rate there is 21 per cent, whereas it can be as low as 16 per cent in other EU countries."

News of a higher EU price point emerged after GI.biz reported that the higher price point had been revealed on the Irish version of the PS3 website.

The SCE spokesperson confirmed that the information is correct, but added, "This doesn't change the previously announced figures of EUR 499 and EUR 599 for the rest of Europe."

Further details of the European launch are expected to be announced within the next two weeks.

 

[Joebob]

I was under the impression by several others you were a fanboy, and mentioning things in past thread you wont use Windows because its Microsoft etc is just pointless pettiness.

I never said I wont use Windows... that would be a bit difficult considering that I run a computer training centre and we are a Microsoft Partners as well as a MOS exam centre.!!!

 

[Mr Latte]

I never said I wont use Windows... that would be a bit difficult considering that I run a computer training centre and we are a Microsoft Partners as well as a MOS exam centre.!!!

Oh do one would you, you would argue over anything.

Sorry you said you woudnt use windows at home was that what i was meant to say...

I hope Sony brick your import PS3 with some firmware to see how much you love them then.... Thats it im done with petti BS

 

[Andy298]

Yes true but this was a VS thread to be fair.

True, but it's the same arguements over and over again!
I'm just waiting for this to spiral out of control and the thread be closed.

 

[Smit]

I agree. I could easily afford all 3 and will get a PS3 at launch if the rumoured new price is correct (£325 was it??).

I miss a lot of the people who were recently banned and agree that the forum hasn't been the same since

Sony have stated again that it will be £425 in the UK