PS3 vs Old Skool PC Gaming

I was a PC gamer for about a decade up until the PS2 came out. I realized then that PC gaming was dead (for me anyway)

Consoles are easier to setup.
Consoles do not require expensive upgrades periodically to maintain playability
Consoles have just as good if not a better selection of games than PCs
Console control systems are as good if not better in many cases to KB/M
Consoles are more social, you can invite a bunch of mates round hand out a few controllers and get going. No need for a console and scene each + the hassle of transporting and setting up kit.
Consoles can be played on the Sofa.

Also I find the statements from PC gamers about Console FPS games requiring little skill to play + auto aim makes it easier followed by *****ing about how the keyboard and mouse is better and they would have won had they been using KB/M.

If console games required no skill and the auto aim made killing easy then surely you PC FPS gaming gods would have been creaming yourselves over how easy it is to get seriously high K/D ratios in console games. Further more the True-Skill leveling system used in Games like COD4 and Halo2/3 would have everyone sitting at the same level as the lack of skill required and the auto aim would balance the games out so you would inherently lose as much as you win. However this is not the case.

The fact is Games like Halo and COD do require skill and practice, and if you put in the practice with the control pad you will find that it is a very good control mechanism on par with the KB/M. In fact I actually prefer it to the KB/M.

Another thing that PC gamers often do not seem to understand Great Graphics != Great game.

Yes the graphical prowess of the console is lower than the PC, but they are by no means poor and thus far each generation of consoles have peaked in their graphical display at about the time their replacement appears on the shelves. Where as with a PC you buy your PC it will run a few games, but in 5 years time that same PC is hardly likely to run any new games, let alone give you reasonable playability or demonstrate the game in its full glory.
 
I've enjoyed reading through this post. It's just my opinion, but I believe that the 'glory' days of PC gaming have long since passed. I'm a serious PC gaming vet; it all started for me with Delta Force, hosted by good old Novaworld, in 1998. I was also into Ultima Online during its early days and then, like most, encountered CS when it was the mod.

The days of Roger Wilco, getting 'dissed' (56k cut off), and using ICQ to arrange meet ups were great times for those concerned. I think people need to remember that PC gaming ten years ago was so ahead of the consoles of the time that it wasn't even funny.

I was recently tempted to upgrade my pc (a rig that was ub3r in 2003) in order to play Left For Dead with a few mates. After weeks of contemplation I just couldn't see the point. Every half decent game made nowadays is on a console with a PC port either alongside it or due later on down the road. With each new game comes driver incompatibility, hardware conflicts, and the wonderful new world of DRM.

About the only glimmer of light for the future of PC gaming is Steam from what I can tell (not including MMORPG communities - an entirely different group). I recently had a look at steam, having not been on it since 2005, and am impressed by the updates. However, it felt to me as if Valve were trying to replicate Xbox Live.... not emphasise what made PC gaming great in the early years.

For me, console gaming is where it's now at. Just for the record though, I still went ahead and bought Left for Dead without upgrading my rig! It actually runs surprisingly well on an ATI 9550 256mb and Athlon XP 2600+....

All I will say though is that if Operation Flashpoint 2 / Arma 2 prove to be good and stick to OFP realism I'll be upgrading in an instant because those games are simply meant to be played on a PC.
 
I bought Biochoc on steam during Xmas for about £3 iirc - compared it side by side version the 360 version and could see no difference visually.

I'm a console lover but even i'll admit bioshock looks far better on the highest settings on a PC than the 360 version. Although that's unsurprising as at the time in order to get the highest settings on the PC you needed to spend quite a bit of moolah for a DX10 card.
 
I meant on the PC :D Promod doesn't exist on consoles, and on consoles CoD4 has auto aim :( It's hard to say a game needs skill when it has autoaim, IMHO.
There is more to playing FPS games than just having free aim or auto aim ;) The auto aim doesn't do anything other than make targeting as easy as it is with a mouse imo anyway.
 
i cant understand how people can go so far one way or the other. i love pc gaming as much as i do any console, although id be the first to admit seting a pc up can be a right pain in the arse.
 
i cant understand how people can go so far one way or the other. i love pc gaming as much as i do any console, although id be the first to admit seting a pc up can be a right pain in the arse.
I have to agree. I guess a true gamer will play on any platform as long as the game is good ;) :p
 
Each side, the Console and PC has its advantages and disadvantages. Any smart, sensible person should just stay in the neutral middle and enjoy both, instead of sticking to one side and put out the same arguments time and time again.
 
Consoles = Buy game play it and be content.

PCs were always a faff, ever since the days of modifying IRQs of sound cards in autoexec.bat, and still are with todays constant updates of drivers. Downloading updates, changing settings, ensuring is stable etc no longer appeals.
 
How do you define a powerful CPU? Cell is an amazing piece of technology, but you can't compare two completely different architectures, and therefore, you're the one who's taken it out of context :) Sure, a PC of the same spec would be beaten, but you'd be used 3-4 year old technology and it would cost you less than the PS3.

For £600, you can build a PC that's graphically four or so times more powerful than the PS3, and of course it can be used for other things as well, other than gaming/multimedia.

Don't get me wrong, I like the console, it's a great piece of kit - but let's present a balanced argument here shall we? :)

Erm, you compared the GPU in the PS3 directly to a PC one, and judging from your post I thought you were referring to the CPU as well (speed wise, whatever GHz they are). You cannot compare the Cell to a PC CPU which was exactly my point... :p
 
like lots have said...the joypad is a precision instrument....put a hardcore fps player on the pc with his razer mouse or whatever he uses and put hardcore joypadders on the same server.

im sure joypadders would own.

















sorry:p
 
I'm a console lover but even i'll admit bioshock looks far better on the highest settings on a PC than the 360 version. Although that's unsurprising as at the time in order to get the highest settings on the PC you needed to spend quite a bit of moolah for a DX10 card.
I could be wrong as it was during Xmas and I was boozed up. At a res of 1680x the only difference I can see imo is the AA being apparent on the PC version. I just can't bear to play that game - hate it, but at that price it couldn't be avoided for its story.
 
It certainly is a leveller although skill will always shine through. Also you know, when playin gon consoles, that you haven't got anybody using wall-hacks or headshot cheats etc and that everyone has pretty equal equipment so no slight advantage. I know of many players on PC who actually used to turn the gfx detail right down on some games to gain an advantage... you will never get that on consoles.

To be fair hackers seem quite rare now, in my experience anyway and remember there's always vote kick/admins to take care of the little ****s.

Loads of servers to choose from if you are unlucky to be stuck in a game with one though.

Console multiplayer can be good, my favourite multiplayer days are from the original Xbox playing Ghost Recon, but now FPS on consoles generally have a lot more aim assist it negates some of the skill required which irritates me. Still you can't knock consoles for online racing and beat em' ups (SF IV :D:D:D)

PC + Console = win-win, if you can swing having a half decent PC with you, I wouldn't be without mine nor would I be without my consoles.

PCs were always a faff, ever since the days of modifying IRQs of sound cards in autoexec.bat, and still are with todays constant updates of drivers. Downloading updates, changing settings, ensuring is stable etc no longer appeals.

Haha. Too bad updates are pretty much automatic now, especially if you order from digital distribution. As are updates for Windows.

How can you complain with updates anyway? Bug fixes, performance improvements, graphical improvements, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
 
To be fair i think the whole 'Consoles are better because you don't need to patch games' argument died the moment Rockstar released a game that would actually brick some PS3s before a patch was introduced.

I've never heard of a game on the PC that kills hardware....
 
Hello All,

I guess you could call me a retro PC gamer, I originate from the days of Battlefield 1942, Counterstrike 1.6, WC3 e


The question is, is it worth it? What is actually the difference in gfx's etc these days between a £500-600 PC and a PS3? The reason I ask this is because I havent seen a high spec PC running a game for some years now. Im assuming everyone on here will be FOR pc but considering the cost is there any point?

Providing I have a 40 inch HD Tv which the PS3 is hooked up too, Im sure it would cost even more than 500 - 600 to get the same / similar resolution.

Thoughts please! Thanks Craig

Ok CS 1.6 is not retro. Playing frogger on a ZX81 is retro. Or blitz on my VIC20 waiting 10 minutes for the 50KB game to load now that's retro.

Your res for your 40TV is 1900X1080 max. you can get the same rez for a monitor for under 200 quid

Computers do loads more than simple gaming should you require nothing but browsing and gaming then a console is for you.

You posted in the consoles forum so I doubt you'll get loads FOR PC gaming. hehe


I don't play online using the PS3 or 360 online gaming is for the PC for me teamspeak, ventrilo and being able to **** people off via ingame chat is great. Also groups creating their own modded servers. Game mods downloadable maps created by the community PC gaming is much more social than console gaming.
 
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