"Wouldn't Dare"? Or just couldn't give a <insert word here>?
Puget and their report are utterly meaningless to me, someone being wrong on the internet is way more important
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Puget data suggests Intel CPUs generally were more reliable than AMD's in 2019-21 (Not Rocketlake!)
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"Wouldn't Dare"? Or just couldn't give a <insert word here>?
Puget and their report are utterly meaningless to me, someone being wrong on the internet is way more important
Soldato
Intel nuthuggers out in force defending a clickbait headline, we've reached Ryan Shrout levels of fanboyism and delusion now.
Soldato
Christ this forum's getting toxic.
Caporegime
Puget Systems are fairly respected,so I would trust their findings(especially since their own test suite for image/video tests is extensive),and points to something many of you are missing.
The date of the releases.
BOTH,AMD and Intel releases made during the pandemic have more issues compared to their earlier ones. That tells me I suspect they BOTH have probably relaxed binning QA/QC standards so they can push more CPUs to desktop,which entirely fits with the supply shortages due to the pandemic and massive demand due to work from home.
The best binned CPUs will always make it server and laptops first. Desktop,especially,the self-built/custom built market seems to be more tolerant of CPUs being a bit more variable in those areas,often because the motherboards and cooling used are OTT.
The date of the releases.
BOTH,AMD and Intel releases made during the pandemic have more issues compared to their earlier ones. That tells me I suspect they BOTH have probably relaxed binning QA/QC standards so they can push more CPUs to desktop,which entirely fits with the supply shortages due to the pandemic and massive demand due to work from home.
The best binned CPUs will always make it server and laptops first. Desktop,especially,the self-built/custom built market seems to be more tolerant of CPUs being a bit more variable in those areas,often because the motherboards and cooling used are OTT.
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Caporegime
There is no difference between Comet Lake and Rocket Lake that would cause a massive up lift in users breaking them due to their own mistakes, Rocket Lake is exactly the same platform type that has been around for decades.
Rocket Lake high failure rate is not user error and if Puget are saying that they are lairs.
Caporegime
Are we also supposed to believe that a far more complex platform like X399 has no failure rates due to user error? But one specific mainstream platform identical to all others does? BS.
Caporegime
Intel's default position on dealing with inconvenient truth's or any competition of any sort is to either threaten or pay them off.
Therefore my default position on dodgy data is always "Intel Shenanigans" Yes this stinks of Ryan Shrout BS.
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You mean ....
Hitachi DeathStar.... no thanks they are right up there with Seagate.. for how poor their drives are. WD never had a drive fail... Hitachi all their drives failed in time for me and the famous Deskstar range that ended their life with the click of death. I'm actually worried that WD now own Hitachi storage and hope they don't copy their mess on to their WD drives.
Caporegime
You mean ....
Hitachi DeathStar.... no thanks they are right up there with Seagate.. for how poor their drives are. WD never had a drive fail... Hitachi all their drives failed in time for me and the famous Deskstar range that ended their life with the click of death. I'm actually worried that WD now own Hitachi storage and hope they don't copy their mess on to their WD drives.
You mean ....
Hitachi DeathStar.... no thanks they are right up there with Seagate.. for how poor their drives are. WD never had a drive fail... Hitachi all their drives failed in time for me and the famous Deskstar range that ended their life with the click of death. I'm actually worried that WD now own Hitachi storage and hope they don't copy their mess on to their WD drives.
I’ve got still got HGST ultra star drives from 2009
Run along, troll.
truth hurts?
Caporegime
Rocketlake was backported to 14NM from 10NM so it makes me wonder,whether Rocketlake is just about stable at stock on 14NM. Hence "user error" could be an indication of how fragile they are if they are already pushed a bit to the edge,so it could compete with Zen3 in performance. Cometlake didn't seem to be pushed as much IMHO.It would go back to my point about both Rocketlake and Zen3 QA/QC being relaxed for desktop SKUs,so both companies could make maximum use of their wafer supply.
To put it in context,the Core i5 10400F under a stock config,has similar performance per watt to a Ryzen 5 3600,and also benefited less from TDP unlocking than the Core i5 11400F. But the latter really needed it,hence the need for Intel to make the B560 somewhat better constructed than the B460 in terms of VRMs.
Soldato
You tell us? Because clearly its painful enough for you to deflect from it with your usual mouth-foaming troll shenanigans.
See above, troll.
The 5600X is still the numbers 1 selling desktop CPU. The two best selling Alder lake chips are at 10th and 20th. 7 of Amazons top ten are Ryzen.
I read that techspot review, 12400 vs 5600x some serious swings and roundabouts there. In some situations 12400 has 20%+ lead over 5600x and then in some cases 5600x has 20%+ leed over the 12400.
Must be some big architecture difference between the two.
Must be some big architecture difference between the two.
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Uhhh.
So the inarguable point here is that we shouldn't be buying 11th Gen Intels.
So the inarguable point here is that we shouldn't be buying 11th Gen Intels.