Punchdown tool issues

[gonegreynow]

I thought I was doing the sensible thing by listening to advice (not on OC) and terminating Cat 6 cable with RJ45 plugs with IDC/punchdown connectors and not crimped.
One reason was the cable is to carry POE; the other, the cable is copper core, not stranded.
This is the first time I've had a go at this and assumed that an old punchdown tool (Krone) would do the job.
Not the case, as it happens.
Due to inexperience, I now learn there are several different types of tool; 110, 88, 66, Krone
I've attached a photo of the terminals inside the RJ45. None of the above tools seem to fit.
I've used (and ruined) a spare RJ45 trying to use the Krone. The slots just don't line up.
Any help much appreciated.

It may well be that I'm going down the wrong path and should simply get hold of some standard RJ45 plugs and a crimp tool.
Very happy to hear anything really.
Thanks

 

[Caged]

Is that not just a generic toolless / field terminating jack?

In any case this is needlessly complicating things, if you buy crimp on plugs that are designed to support solid cable then you'll have no issues.

 

[gonegreynow]

Is that not just a generic toolless / field terminating jack?

In any case this is needlessly complicating things, if you buy crimp on plugs that are designed to support solid cable then you'll have no issues.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.
And this is where my inexperience is showing.
Before I bought anything - cable and plugs - I read/watched a few YT. videos and the consensus seemed to be punch down for solid core, crimped for stranded cable.
I should have come here first!!
If you don’t mind the follow up question, are there special RJ45 plugs that I should be looking for? Specific manufacturer or retailer?
As I don’t have a crimp tool, I’m guessing something entry level would do the job, given that I’m talking just a few crimped connections.

 

[Armageus]

What is the cable for exactly?

Solid core cable is for fixed installations, and is normally terminated in a patch panel at one end, and a faceplate/Euro mod socket at the other end

Cat6 UTP RJ45 Modules with Faceplate | Cat6 Modules & Outlets

The Connectix Enhanced Category 6 way loaded faceplate consists of 1 or two modules in loaded in a singlegang faceplate or 4 modules loaded in a doublegang

www.cablemonkey.co.uk

In the event that you do need to fit RJ45 plugs to solid cable, then CCS plugs are decent and work with either stranded or solid

CCS Cat6 UTP RJ45 Plug | Cat6 Accessories

These 2 piece Cat6 UTP Rj45 plugs are suitable for terminations on both Stranded Patch and Solid core Cat6 Cable. They are of 2 piece

www.cablemonkey.co.uk

 

[gonegreynow]

What is the cable for exactly?

Solid core cable is for fixed installations, and is normally terminated in a patch panel at one end, and a faceplate/Euro mod socket at the other end

Cat6 UTP RJ45 Modules with Faceplate | Cat6 Modules & Outlets

The Connectix Enhanced Category 6 way loaded faceplate consists of 1 or two modules in loaded in a singlegang faceplate or 4 modules loaded in a doublegang

www.cablemonkey.co.uk

In the event that you do need to fit RJ45 plugs to solid cable, then CCS plugs are decent and work with either stranded or solid

CCS Cat6 UTP RJ45 Plug | Cat6 Accessories

These 2 piece Cat6 UTP Rj45 plugs are suitable for terminations on both Stranded Patch and Solid core Cat6 Cable. They are of 2 piece

www.cablemonkey.co.uk

The Cat 6 cable is ‘outdoor grade’ solid core and being used to connect up a couple of security cameras (POE) back to the switch. It’s a small 8 port switch, nothing fancy.
I’d assumed that I needed to connect RJ45 plugs at both ends (the camera end obviously needs a plug) but I hadn’t thought about some sort of socket at the switch end.
As you can tell, I’ve never done this sort of thing before and appreciate any help.

 

[Armageus]

Standard RJ45 plugs (as above link or similar) at the Camera end (as normally you just plug them into the flylead on the camera, and hide the ends in a small weatherproof box or similar).

For the internal side, you can again use RJ45's, however the risk is that they get damaged and unless you leave plenty of spare cable you may not to be recrimp and therefore have to run a whole new cable.
Ideally therefore you'd mount a fixed Socket, using euromods and punchdown with an IDC tool, then run premade patch leads from the socket(s) to your switch.
if you want to move the switch elsewhere, it's then dead easy to replace the patch leads.

 

[Caged]

How are you physically going to get those massive plugs into the cameras?

 

[gonegreynow]

How are you physically going to get those massive plugs into the cameras?

I’ve purchased a ‘back box’ for the camera into which all of the cables go - POE, 12 v DC power (not being used) and reset. They will all fit in here, although not a lot of spare space.
I’ll then pass my unterminated Cat 6 cable through the rubber grommet on the box, take it all down to ground level and terminate the plug there.
I’ve done a dry run and know it is all OK - at the camera end.
When I say OK, what I mean is that once I’ve properly terminated the Cat 6 with the RJ45 plug, I know that I have sufficient room in the back box to connect it all up and hide all cables so that none are exposed to the elements.
Because I’m running the Cat 6 up the side of the house, in through a soffit, across the loft and down into an upstairs room, I’m having to use bare cable to prevent having to drill large holes in the soffit and ceiling.

 

[IAmATeaf]

For my CCTV cams I used solid, at the time outdoor rated cat5e and just terminated both ends with an RJ45 plug. One end plugs into the cam as they come with a female socket and the other end with loads of slack directly into the switch.

I did actually buy a patch panel but then never bothered to use it as with the switch in the loft I didn’t see the point.