Minimum wage annual salary for a 37 hour week is £11,409 gross. 25% less than the £16k quoted.
Pupil premium.
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Minimum wage annual salary for a 37 hour week is £11,409 gross. 25% less than the £16k quoted.
And 2x £11,409 is?
And so? Perhaps both parents don't have jobs? Single parents?
I know two single parent families which would fall under this limit.
You're assuming every household has 2 earners.
As I mentioned above, this would have effected me when I was at school.
Soldato
sometimes one parent moves away and has nothing to do with the kid or sometimes they might even die.
Even if you need to take money away from other students to do it, this is a good idea. Students that poor do by far the worst on average and come from the most disadvantaged backgrounds so need all the help from the state they can get to improve their opportunities.
I wasn't from that demographic so don't think I have self-interest at heart!
I wasn't from that demographic so don't think I have self-interest at heart!
Assuming both parents are working, assuming there are two parents tobegin with.
Caporegime
Simple really, the principle of this is fantastic, long overdue imo.
Soldato
Nope, doesn't sound like it... But statistically, poor children don't do as well at school as rich children, so it's a good way of assigning extra cash to places that are likely to get lower academic achievement. Whether you agree with spending more money on poor children to try and get their achievement up to rich children's standard is worthwhile, or even fair is a personal issue. We won't find out whether it works for quite a while though. (although I'd have thought that it would - I can't imagine one to one teaching being worse than full class teaching... unless the teacher was my current chemistry teacher
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Sounds great. We can buy more iphones with the extra money. 
Man of Honour
Don't be silly. The vast amount of people on benefits get nowhere near this figure.
Nope, doesn't sound like it... But statistically, poor children don't do as well at school as rich children, so it's a good way of assigning extra cash to places that are likely to get lower academic achievement. Whether you agree with spending more money on poor children to try and get their achievement up to rich children's standard is worthwhile, or even fair is a personal issue. We won't find out whether it works for quite a while though. (although I'd have thought that it would - I can't imagine one to one teaching being worse than full class teaching... unless the teacher was my current chemistry teacher
It also encourages better schools to take more underprivileged kids, it acts as a financial incentive.
Man of Honour
It's also common for people on low incomes to cluster geographically, so schools often either have a very high number of poor pupils or very few. This allows those schools to make sure they give the best opportunities for poor pupils to get out of the benefit reliance that many communities are stuck in.
The parents who don't both have jobs was exactly who I was referring to by scroungers.
Indeed. There is in my opinion nothing bad about the pupil premium policy, it's a good policy that is well overdue.
Soldato
Your point, that there is no direct link between parental income and need for additional academic support, is a valid one.
Although there is no direct link, however, there is a pronounced correlation between the two, and given that parental income is easier to measure than more appropriate metrics — academic potential or genuine need, for example — pegging the Pupil Premium against it is as close as we can get to an efficient policy.
There will no doubt be exceptions. Many children from low-income backgrounds are able to buck the trend and excel in school, and in these cases their counterparts with wealthier parents might have a greater need. That said, many of the intended effects of the Pupil Premium, such as reducing class sizes, will have benefits for all pupils.
Soldato
Would be a good idea if it was additional money.
As it stands the pupil premium will be funded from other areas in the education budget - there is no extra money for this.
As it stands the pupil premium will be funded from other areas in the education budget - there is no extra money for this.
I worked it out that I was getting almost £600 a month when I was on dole and housing benefits. I was on it for 3 weeks before finding another job
I was given a load of sheets with info on what can be claimed.
Tax credits, child benefits, disability, school fees and a list as long as your arm on other things that could be claimed. It was discraceful really
When I was on £16500 I took just over £900 a month after tax and NI
No wonder the country is in bits really. Have 2 kids, claim housing, jobseekers, tax bens etc
No-one in the jobcentre looked like they were actually seeking a job. strange that!