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Q6600, E8400 or Q9450

Bear in mind that similar arguements arose with the E6850 and Q6600. The 6850 clocked better but the Q6600 was more popular and holds its price better than the E6850;). I'll be hanging onto both to see which works best for me then sell the one I least make use of.
 
Yes but the 6850 was not a 4ghz + chip and the same tech, and from what i have seen some of them struggle to make 3.8ghz this is a whole different ball game than the 6850.
If the 8400 blows away the quad and is cheaper that already makes the q6600 worth less than the new price of an 8400 in my view.
 
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It seems that a lot of people are saying, Get the E8500, it clocks to 4ghz.
The Quad will just sit there and never be used to its full potential.

Now, surely that is a reason to get the quad?!
I want a chip that isn't being used to its full potential, surely that means it'll last longer?!

And isn't the same true of the dual core? If you clock it to 4ghz, it wont need all that speed for a while yet, and its restricted by the GPU anyway, so whats the point!

Quite contradictory, some of your recomendations!
 
Because by the time the quad is being utilised properly the q6600 will be worth about £40 and there will be far better faster cooler quads you either move with the times and cushion the blow of losing money or dont.

By all means you can keep the quad but whos to say that some time down the line a q6600 will be holding you back because of it's clocks.
It's quite plain and simple get or keep a quad now and lose far more money on a resale than having a wolfdale.

Look what happened to the 6*** series of duo's none of them will fetch over £60 second hand now because of the 2*** series budget chips the same thing will happen with the wolfdale a budget wolfdale will beat the q6600 and make it worth diddly to the non heavy encoder which i think makes up the vast majority of pc owners.

I'd rather have an 8400/8500 that i can keep for a year and get £80-£100 resale than a quad and get £40 for it because theres another new tech chip that beats it for £50 new.

Everything loses value but when new tech arrives it's speeded up from what i have seen and budget models out perform and undercut current tech.
There's a reason people are selling their quads for these and that reason is partly to avoid the inevitable price crash on the q6600 just as was seen with the old 8800 cards when the gt hit.If what you say is true then people would not be selling their quads and getting these.
 
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C64 said:
Because by the time the quad is being utilised properly the q6600 will be worth about £40 and there will be far better faster cooler quads you either move with the times and cushion the blow of losing money or dont.

By all means you can keep the quad but whos to say that some time down the line a q6600 will be holding you back because of it's clocks.
It's quite plain and simple get or keep a quad now and lose far more money on a resale than having a wolfdale.

Look what happened to the 6*** series of duo's none of them will fetch over £60 second hand now because of the 2*** series budget chips the same thing will happen with the wolfdale a budget wolfdale will beat the q6600 and make it worth diddly to the non heavy encoder which i think makes up the vast majority of pc owners.

I'd rather have an 8400/8500 that i can keep for a year and get £80-£100 resale than a quad and get £40 for it because theres another new tech chip that beats it for £50 new.

Everything loses value but when new tech arrives it's speeded up from what i have seen and budget models out perform and undercut current tech.
There's a reason people are selling their quads for these and that reason is partly to avoid the inevitable price crash on the q6600 just as was seen with the old 8800 cards when the gt hit. If what you say is true then people would not be selling their quads and getting these.
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That just about sums it up perfectly. The new quads are being released soon and the current quads will drop in price like a stone. The new 2.5ghz Q9300 is not only faster, cooler and more power efficient than the Q6600, it is also at or around the same price, £172. The Q9450 i have seen for sale (pre-orders) at £211 and the Q9550 for £316. Nobody is going to pay a decent price for a used Q6600 when these are released. Just as well to get rid of now. If i can get £140 for my quad then another £30 gets me a E8500.
 
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If I was going quad, i'd go for the Q9450, which should overclock better than a Q6600 (I think).
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Again 8x multi will make it really hard to overclock it to its potential 4Ghz+ without a monster mobo that's capable of 500Mhz FSB and more. 500Mhz FSB is easy with dual core wolfdales but with quad people are getting 450-475Mhz if they're lucky which gives you 3.6Ghz -3.8Ghz, now a Q6600 G0 is capable of that clock and cost a lot less than the Q9450 will.

So IMO it's either a Q6600 or a E8400.
 
I dont understand why intel didnt put a higher multiplier on the Q9450.
It would rock if it could clock to 4ghz like the wolfies!

But no. i think they knew I was looking at building a PC, so they made it harder for me!
 
Just simple arithmatic. Intel decided that they wanted to have the Q9450 run at 2.66Ghz (presumably to give an acceptable TDP in these energy conscious days), using a 1333Mhz FSB, which gives an 8x multiplier. Quite cunning of them really given the cost of the unlocked, extreme versions of the chip. :)
 
I've just sold my Quad to a friend @ work for £150 :D:D, ordered by E8400, should get it Tomorrow:D. I will keep that for about 6-12mths, before upgrading again. God Knows how much a q6600 will be worth when the new quads come out.

Happy Days....
 
I seems that the Q9300 will be more along the same price as the Q6600 but only have a 7.5x multi :( Remember that the price doubles for the next chip up from the Q6600, and I expect will happen with the Q9450 :(

Matthew
 
I've been searching for info and one of the large computery online places has the Q9450 on thier website - no ETA but does have a price of ~ £225 which seems ok - no idea if it is true mind you.

Hopefully some official guidance of ETA and price will come shortly.
 
There is an FSB wall on the 45nm ES quads. 450FSB is your reaslistic max stable FSB.

For Yorkfield add on 400mhz to be the same as 65nm. Plus it has the extra instruction set that will be of advantage in Video encoding and rendering.

Wolfdale also has the extra instruction set but obviously wont be as quick.

Personally I would go Quad, but most people don't need more than dual core.

All 45nm chips run really cool so you don't need as loud cooling.
 
Scougar said:
I seems that the Q9300 will be more along the same price as the Q6600 but only have a 7.5x multi :( Remember that the price doubles for the next chip up from the Q6600, and I expect will happen with the Q9450 :(

Matthew
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I've already stated the pre-order prices that i have found further up the page and the Q9450 is only £40 more expensive than the Q9300. Big jump of £100 to the Q9550 though. Yet another reason to sell a Q6600 now.
 
Sell ! Sell ! Sell ! used Quads are selling around £140 - £150 @ the moment, I reckon the more nearer the time gets near the new quads the price of used q6600's will drop rapido !
 
I've heard that stocks of the Q9550 and Q9450s will be in UK 2nd-3rd week in Mar. No idea how reliable it is.
 
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